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Mayor to Marines: Leave downtown - He says urban exercises scare people
Toledo Blade ^

Posted on 02/09/2008 5:54:38 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Probably was afraid we would retake Toledo. It is, historically, part of Michigan.”

History says ohio took the land...

in reality:

We lost...and where forced to accept part of Michigan as punishment...

*snicker*

j/k


161 posted on 02/09/2008 7:30:23 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: sit-rep
Who the hell said I was in the Seals?

I’m done with ya...

I'm sorry again..... you were spouting off like you actually knew something about training for urban ops. Then you said you were in the Navy....

So I just assumed with the tone of your comments that you must feel that you were somehow informed of training methods of spec ops, urban ops, counter insurgency or guerrilla warfare that you received in the Navy.

So let me get this straight.

- You were bad mouthing the Marine training methods.

- You made a big point about Marines currently in theatre might not have trained in a civilian city and felt that this shot an argument like a "mini-gun"

-You were making snide comments about the fact that Marines SHOULD know about logistics....cause they must have learned that .... uh, where again... boot camp, huh?

- But it turns out your a Navy vet just spouting off about something you know nothing about and putting down people that might have a little more hands on and formal training in the methods you are questioning.

Kewl, I get it.

So how was that tour of duty cleaning the head of the good ship Lollipop? Learned a lot about fighting in a city, when again? Was that before toilet plunging or after barnacle scraping.

Now I'm done with you. Carry on, semen.

162 posted on 02/09/2008 9:14:18 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
A local multiplex movie theater was torched a couple of years ago by the Fire Department. There were stories in the weekly local paper about the plans for all the training that would go on.

I recall when the theater just opened, and there was a long line to see Jaws.

***********

I bet Jamie Farr is proud of his hometown of Toledo .

163 posted on 02/10/2008 4:58:28 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: frankenMonkey
I wonder what Drew Carey has to say about this...

As a Marine or a Cleveland native?

164 posted on 02/10/2008 5:53:45 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Related thread....

Toledo joins Berzerkley in rejecting Marines

165 posted on 02/10/2008 5:56:13 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Larry Lucido
Hubby was in '93-'00. He was armored cav in the regular army before that.

Did you do any of your active training in Detroit?

166 posted on 02/10/2008 6:02:55 AM PST by grellis ("Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: mewzilla
OK & TX U.S. Senators Introduce Semper Fi Act of 2008
167 posted on 02/10/2008 6:06:04 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Dick Vomer

Take a look at post 159. This says nothing to you?

You keep on assuming all you want. Looks like you got it down to a science.


168 posted on 02/10/2008 6:10:01 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
Take a look at post 159. This says nothing to you?

So you take some snarky comment and inflate it into an assault on posse comitatus?

You keep on assuming all you want. Looks like you got it down to a science.

Heh. You are the one changing an urban warfare exercise into a training exercise for invading an American city.

I'm sorry, I can't muster the level of paranoia that you seem to aspire to. The marines weren't doing anything wrong, Constitutionally, legally or morally, and all of the handwaving in the world won't change that.

169 posted on 02/10/2008 6:25:24 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
So you take some snarky comment and inflate it into an assault on posse comitatus?

Lol... I did not have to inflate it. By the sound of you and others, it's inflation is welcome.

170 posted on 02/10/2008 6:39:27 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
Lol... I did not have to inflate it. By the sound of you and others, it's inflation is welcome.

Show me ONE post of mine where I said anything other than supporting this for what it was, training for urban situations.

You are the one turing this into some black helicopter conspiracy based only on some snarky comments.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

171 posted on 02/10/2008 6:42:12 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
I can't muster the level of paranoia that you seem to aspire to. The marines weren't doing anything wrong, Constitutionally, legally or morally, and all of the handwaving in the world won't change that.

This gets real close my man! I've said from the git go on this thread that I support the Military, so let there be no mistaking that. I also said that this training, so desperately needed to be done in our Urban areas, when they have adequate training facilities on numerous bases across the country, is potential conditioning and it works... ...as pointed out in the post you call "Snarky". A British term if I am not mistaken... Go ahead and call me paranoid. The debates concerning troop movement and training in our streets from back in the Clinton years is cause for great concern. You may not remember it/be aware of it, or think it now, but once we get another communist Democrat in office, and they perform these exercises again, you will hear more voices other than mine, speaking out against it.

172 posted on 02/10/2008 6:58:58 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: TomB
I can't muster the level of paranoia that you seem to aspire to. The marines weren't doing anything wrong, Constitutionally, legally or morally, and all of the handwaving in the world won't change that.

This gets real close my man!

I've said from the git go on this thread that I support the Military, so let there be no mistaking that. I also said that this training, so desperately needed to be done in our Urban areas, when they have adequate training facilities on numerous bases across the country, is potential conditioning and it works... ...as pointed out in the post you call "Snarky". A British term if I am not mistaken...

Go ahead and call me paranoid. The debates concerning troop movement and training in our streets from back in the Clinton years is cause for great concern. You may not remember it/be aware of it, or think it now, but once we get another communist Democrat in office, and they perform these exercises again, you will hear more voices other than mine, speaking out against it.

173 posted on 02/10/2008 6:59:18 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
I'm still waiting.
174 posted on 02/10/2008 7:01:50 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: sit-rep
I did not have to inflate it. By the sound of you and others, it's inflation is welcome.

Come on, I'm still waiting for proof of this. Give me one of my comments that shows that.

175 posted on 02/10/2008 7:27:02 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: sit-rep
Still nothing?

Well keep digging...

176 posted on 02/10/2008 8:41:10 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: grellis

They would have been outgunned in Detroit.


177 posted on 02/10/2008 10:38:27 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander
They would have been outgunned in Detroit.

MILITARIST!

WAR MONGER!!

(sorry, the other poster has me a little on edge)

178 posted on 02/10/2008 10:49:03 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: Sub-Driver
Toledo Mayor Tells Marines to Take a Hike
179 posted on 02/10/2008 11:29:36 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Sub-Driver
"He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area."

I thought they were going to practice and drill in downtown Toledo on a Sunday?

-Eric

180 posted on 02/11/2008 4:25:57 AM PST by E Rocc (Resident smartass and Myspace Freepers group moderator.)
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