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You know, we have nine(9) months between now and the election. The Dem. nominee may not be determined for months. Mc cain’s VP nominee hasn’t been selected. I think people who are making these Shermanesk statements at this time are full of hot air and are expressing emotion of the moment. A more sobering thought might influence them in November given the stark difference in the choices.


16 posted on 02/08/2008 6:50:51 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
You know, we have nine(9) months between now and the election. The Dem. nominee may not be determined for months. Mc cain’s VP nominee hasn’t been selected. I think people who are making these Shermanesk statements at this time are full of hot air and are expressing emotion of the moment. A more sobering thought might influence them in November given the stark difference in the choices.

So basically you are saying 'conservatives' put some ice on it come November you'll see things my way... How very Bill Clinton of you... 'you know'.

42 posted on 02/08/2008 7:07:16 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

>given the stark difference in the choices.

I’m trying to look at this situation clearly.

It’s hard for me to understand how the difference is “stark”. The media will try to portary it as stark, simply because the only thing the media knows how to do is portray every matter of public controversy as a Manichaean struggle, devoid of subtlety or contingencies. I agree that by November, more people will regard the choice as “stark” simply because the election will be framed as such.

Nonetheless, in both policy matters and temperament it is difficult to distinguish between McCain and McClinton. A centrist authoritarian and a leftist authoritarian, who appear to agree more than they disagree.

A McCain presidency would accelerate the slide into welfare-state corporatism with conservatives divided and disaffected; under a McClinton or Obama presidency, the Right would be united, and would fight every battle vigorously.


60 posted on 02/08/2008 7:34:23 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

>given the stark difference in the choices.

I’m trying to look at this situation clearly.

It’s hard for me to understand how the difference is “stark”. The media will try to portary it as stark, simply because the only thing the media knows how to do is portray every matter of public controversy as a Manichaean struggle, devoid of subtlety or contingencies. I agree that by November, more people will regard the choice as “stark” simply because the election will be framed as such.

Nonetheless, in both policy matters and temperament it is difficult to distinguish between McCain and McClinton. A centrist authoritarian and a leftist authoritarian, who appear to agree more than they disagree.

A McCain presidency would accelerate the slide into welfare-state corporatism with conservatives divided and disaffected; under a McClinton or Obama presidency, the Right would be united, and would fight every battle vigorously.


62 posted on 02/08/2008 7:34:59 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

>>I think people who are making these Shermanesk statements at this time are full of hot air and are expressing emotion of the moment.<<

The tone of her article coupled with the facts that she uses to support her position contradict your statement.

If you don’t like what she says and that creates an emotional response in you which causes YOU to be full of hot air, I understand. I may be wrong but, unlike her article, yours makes claims (e.g. “stark difference in the choices”) without offering any support for those claims.

Mona has a long and proven track record for level-headed analysis and even-handed treatment of the issues on which she comments. Hew position is MUCH more convincing than Ann Coulter, although it is interesting they both agree here.


72 posted on 02/08/2008 8:02:50 AM PST by RobRoy
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