[NotchJohnson]

I like to think big picture, like an adult. The scenario is having Hilary or Obama make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln. Then in 4 years we can elect anyone we choose. If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work. Short term thinking is the “McCain is our only hope” thinking.

[rhombus]

I like to think big picture, like an adult. The scenario is having Hilary or Obama make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln. Then in 4 years we can elect anyone we choose. If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work. Short term thinking is the “McCain is our only hope” thinking.

That's what I told myself in 1992... 4 years, then they'll all see they should have listened to us, then surely we can take back the White House... Of course it didn't work that way. Four years turned into 8 years and almost 12 years had Gore succeeded in suing his way into the White House. Personally I think plenty of damage was done in those 8 years of Clinton. We may not have as much influence with McCain as we'd like... we have no influence over Billary Obama especially if we demonstrate defeat.

[n230099]

"If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work."

There are only several explanations for the fact that we haven't been hit again, at least in the manner of the 911 attacks. If you believe the reason is that they saw the response from Bush is part of it and they want no more of that, there's the notion that a Dem President will be tested.

What would be the Obamama response to an attack of a 911 scale? My gut says we may find out.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

“I like to think big picture, like an adult. The scenario is having Hilary or Obama make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln. Then in 4 years we can elect anyone we choose. If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work.”

If Hillary gets in she will not be a one-termer. It just won’t happen.

[prov1813man]

In the next four years there will be 2-3 new judges, speaking of long term.

[GraniteStateConservative]

I like to think big picture, like an adult. The scenario is having Hilary or Obama make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln. Then in 4 years we can elect anyone we choose. If we can live for 4 years by not having Al Queda detonate a nuke in a major city it may work. Short term thinking is the “McCain is our only hope” thinking.

Don't overestimate the intelligence of the American vote. The idea that 4 years of Obama/Hillary means a GOP landslide in 2012 is totally unfounded. Ronald Reagan couldn't win the states in 2008 he won in 1980. This is a different political landscape.