Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D
Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.
The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."
The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.
"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.
"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.
He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.
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LOL!
Huh?
Guess psychology is not your strong point either.
What is it, exactly, that you do teach? Gym?
Logic isn’t behind your argument. Paying taxes isn’t a choice, choosing to go beyond that and actively support evil is a choice.
Texas has no requirement for homeschooling. You may chose any curriculum you choose or make3 up your own.
Texas has no requirement for homeschooling. You may chose any curriculum you choose or make up your own.
As a matter of fact my degree is in psychology smart a$$. I would think after you had had your head handed to you a couple of times you would have given up but see post #320.
Quote: It is better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
Our daughter home schools our grandchildren so you don’t have to sell me on homeschooling. I you are in a good district then what you are saying is true. I am in an inner city middle school where the kids have parents with drug problems or have been in country less than a year or whose parents are drop outs. Teachers can’t overcome all problems. I don’t know what it was like when you were going but the only parents we see during parents night are the ones we don’t need to see. Self motivation can not be INSTALLED by anyone that statement simply does not make sense.
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No one is forcing a teacher to be a teacher. No policeman will arrest them and haul them before a court if they refuse to write a check to the NEA, or refuse to show up for work. On the other, hand resisting paying taxes will lead to imprisonment. If a person were to be sufficiently resistant, the police will kill him.
I do believe that there are still jobs within the government schools that can be fulfilled without compromise to Christian belief. I do feel there are school districts, still, that are not so contaminated by Secular Humanism that a Christian can ethically function. Government schools might not be the best forum for the expression of Christian talents ( Christian schools would ) but certainly far from sinful.
With the passage of SB777, though, the homosexual agenda will be reflected throughout the **entire** curriculum, in every grade, and every course. I believe that in this state, it is now past the point where Christians can ethically and morally cooperate with the government schools. Unfortunately, what happens in California will soon be reflected in textbooks throughout the nation.
I surely didn’t see any evidence of “good” teachers protesting SB777. Maybe the press missed covering this news story. I doubt it, though.
I see “opinions equally valid” and my moral relativism alarm bells start sounding.
but what about a parent or group of parents hiring a certified tutor to teach the kids in your home?
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In Maryland, at the time we lived there, parents were permitted to teacher their own children in their own homes. Anything else was considered a school or business and all the zoning and health regulations kicked in.
You need to ask for a refund.
I would think after you had had your head handed to you a couple of times you would have given up but see post #320.
My head handed to me?
You have serious denial issues lady.
All I saw was two "educators" try and defend the poor example one of them was setting, by way of numerous 1st grade errors in punctuation, by holding a non-educator to standards higher than they were unwilling to commit to themselves.
Oh, and a couple of serious flaws in logic which when pointed out were ignored.
Quote: It is better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
I agree. Maybe the next time you claim the mantle of teacher, in written form for all the world to see, you'll remember that fact and will refrain from doing so.
You cant cure stupid!
Oh I know. I'm corresponding with living, breathing proof of that axion right now. I tried and received double-standards, playground comebacks, and 1st grade logic in return.
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Ah! That’s sounds suspiciously close to the religion taught in the government schools: Secular Humanism.
But,,,as SoftballmominVA has stated previously “ Our opinions are equally valid. “ (Really? Opinions are equally valid? ) Is this what is being taught in her school?
Achilles, thanks again for such a thorough analysis. I have book marked.
What possible good can a parent’s night do? Gee! You’re lucky enough to get 10 minutes with the teacher, and nothing the parent every says makes and difference anyway.
By the way, I think it is utterly creepy how the art hanging outside each classroom is all the same. There is something weird about seeing 25 nearly identical pieces of artwork.
One of the blessings of homeschooling was never having to waste another minute at an utterly useless parent-teacher meeting!
First off numnuts I’m a 65 year old man. What we all saw was a pious little twit trying to show his intelligence with half a pea brain. I did not start this you did when you attempted to correct someone else when you yourself are ignorant about the subject. Go away little boy your stupidity is annoying.
Good lesson: People in ignorant houses should not through punctuation.
Who are you?
I agree, I show up for parents night because I am required to and judging by the turn out the parents feel the same. I’ve already stated that my daughter home schools our grandchildren so I’m 100% behind homeschooling but every one can not home school. I assume every one does not feel the way we do or those same parents would not keep showing up. Don’t be to hard on us public school teachers. We are doing the best we can with the cards we are dealt we have been reduced down to teaching to state test that we are not allowed to know what the questions on it are. Sorry I’m rambling, two years to retirement. Some one else can try to do better than I have.
The only thing that is annoying is that I actually pay for your stupidity.
This is a pointless waste of bandwidth. Im not getting dragged down any deeper by either of you.
Youre wrong.
I am not an educator supported by taxpayer dollars.
You are.
You made half a dozen 1st grade errors in punctuation, in at least two SEPARATE posts, in which you were defending the professional level of teachers!
You then both made a series of non-sequiturs and Olympic leaps of logic. One of which included pointing out how MY grammatical errors (I am an engineering geek, not a teacher), which were no where near as simple as yours, reflected badly on my SPOUSE.
Now there is dizzying intellect on display!
Then, finally, when these logical fallacies were pointed out to you, you ignored them and proceeded to proofread my posts in manner you were unwilling to do to your own.
Rant away at me all you want, but Im pretty sure knowing when to use a question mark or a quotation mark, especially when posting about how great public school teachers are, is not too much to ask for. I am not the one who undermined the perception of my profession by displaying such a lack of simple competence in a public forum seen by thousands.
Come back to me when I get Bernoulli equation wrong in a public discussion about how great the Naval Nuclear Power Program was.
If you look at my post, which you referenced, I did not accuse anyone of lying. In fact, I specifically said "I don't know, it depends...." That is hardly a stinging accusation. It means exactly what it says, "I don't know" and a oblique request for more information, which you provided.
What bothered me about your post was that you jumped on me for questioning the figures, then you in the next paragraph questioned them yourself. Woah. So, if I question them it's bad, if you question them, it's okay? That inconsistency threw me.
Thanks for the extended post about the history of the study. I have an incredibly busy day, including travel back to home tonight, so I may look through some of that and print it to read back home. I'm with a band group out of town, so I have a few minutes to look around here before I go get them up. If not today, I'm with ANOTHER band trip starting Wednesday and I'll positively have time to look at it then.
Sorry, I don't pay in enough to FR to waste JR's bandwidth on concepts stuck on stupid.
Yeah, it was. In fact, when she told me she got four-hundred-something on the SAT, my first question was, "Which part?" Then she repeated, "On the SAT!"
I cant recall the last time I got a student with higher than 550 on math.
Are you at a community college or a university? What are the admission standards at your school?
wintertime, it's good to know that YOUR OPINION IS that in some cases Christian teachers can still work in the public schools.
If you'd lived a couple of thousand years ago, you'd probably have been one of those criticizing Jesus for hanging out with sinners.
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