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To: MNJohnnie

“McCain talks a good game He has done nothing. Actions speak louder than words.”

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Assume, oracle, that, by this declaratory condemnation, you, also, were in the Hotel Hilton...You know, that establishment in Hanoi. You might recognize some of your fellow guests from the following...

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15 December 2007

ARLINGTON, VA — Today over 100 retired admirals and generals endorsed John McCain for President of the United States at a press conference in Columbia, South Carolina. These distinguished leaders supporting John McCain come from all branches of the armed services and include former POWs, Medal of Honor recipients and former members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

John McCain was joined today in Columbia by five distinguished military veterans: Admiral Leighton “Snuffy” Smith, USN (Ret.); Vice Admiral Mike Bowman, USN (Ret.); Rear Admiral Tom Lynch, USN (Ret.); Rear Admiral Bob Shumaker, USN (Ret.); and Major General Stan Spears, USA, Adjutant General of South Carolina.

“This nation is at war and we’d better damn well understand that fact,” said Admiral Leighton “Snuffy” Smith, USN (Ret.). “John McCain understands it, and he is the only candidate that has not wavered one bit in his position regarding the importance of victory in the war against Islamic extremism or in his commitment to the troops who are doing the fighting. He has consistently demonstrated the kind and style of leadership that we believe is essential in our next Commander in Chief. Our nation faces a growing array of serious foreign policy challenges. John McCain is the ONE candidate who, in our view, truly understands the strategic landscape and is fully prepared to deal decisively and effectively with those who wish to be our friends and, importantly, those who wish us harm.”

John McCain thanked the admirals and generals, stating, “I am deeply honored to have the support of so many distinguished military leaders. I thank them for the trust they have in me, but more importantly, our nation is indebted to their service in defense of our freedom. Our next president will face two wars and an array of national security challenges around the world. My experience, knowledge and background have prepared me to confront these great challenges and lead as commander in chief from day one.”

Retired Admirals And Generals Joining John McCain In South Carolina Today:

Admiral Leighton “Snuffy” Smith, Jr., USN (Ret.): Admiral Smith retired from the Navy after over 34 years of service in positions that took him, literally, around the world. His last active duty assignment was Commander, U.S. Naval Force, Europe, Commander in Chief Allied Forces Southern Europe (NATO) and, concurrently, Commander of NATO’s first ever out of area land operation, the Implementation Forces (IFOR) in Bosnia charged with implementing the Dayton Peace Accords. As a naval aviator Admiral Smith flew carrier-based light attack jet aircraft during multiple deployments to the Mediterranean, North Atlantic, Western Pacific and Indian oceans. These included three cruises in waters off North Vietnam where he flew over 280 combat missions.

Vice Admiral Mike Bowman, USN (Ret.): Bowman spent 36 years in the Navy, attaining the rank of Vice Admiral. Highlights of his Navy career include: Naval aviator with tour tours in Vietnam and Wing Commander during Desert Storm and notable assignments including Squadron command, three Air Wing commands, Senate Liaison for the Secretary of the Navy and later Chief of Legislative Affairs, Carrier Group command, Chief of Naval Air Training and Commander Naval Air Force, U.S. Pacific Fleet.

Rear Admiral Tom Lynch, USN (Ret.): After a 31-year career of naval service, Lynch retired in the rank of Rear Admiral. His naval service included Chief, Navy Legislative Affairs, command of the Eisenhower Battle Group during Operation Desert Shield, Superintendent of the U.S. Naval Academy from 1991 to 1994 and Director of the Navy Staff in the Pentagon from 1994 to 1995. Admiral Lynch graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy with his Bachelor of Science degree in 1964 and received his M.S. from George Washington University.

Rear Admiral Bob Shumaker, USN (Ret.): After graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1956, Admiral Shumaker attended flight training and eventually joined VF-32, a fighter squadron in Jacksonville, Florida. He was a finalist in the Apollo astronaut selection, but a temporary physical ailment prevented his selection. In 1964 he graduated with a masters degree in aeronautical engineering from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School and then joined VF-154 in San Diego, California. In February 1965, he was shot down on a mission over North Vietnam, was captured, and spent the next eight years as a POW. In 1973 he was repatriated and resumed studies, which eventually led to a doctorate degree in electrical engineering. As a Captain he was a government project manager for smart missiles at the Naval Air Systems Command. In 1983 he was promoted to the rank of Commodore and became the Superintendent of the Nav al Postgraduate School. At the Pentagon in 1986, as a Rear Admiral, he was responsible for coordinating the research efforts of the Navy’s air, surface, electronics and space activities. He retired from the Navy in 1989 and became an assistant dean at The George Washington University and later became the associate dean of the Center for Aerospace Sciences at the University of North Dakota, from which he retired in 1991. Admiral Shumaker’s military decorations include the Distinguished Service Medal, two Silver Stars, four Legions of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross, a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts.

Major General Stan Spears, USA: General Spears is Adjutant General of South Carolina. He leads and directs the 10,500-member South Carolina Army and Air National Guard. He serves on the Board of Visitors for the Citadel, the military college of South Carolina. General Spears is the senior Adjutant General in the United States and the several territories. Born and raised in York County, South Carolina, General Spears is a graduate of the University of South Carolina, where he played on the football team. In 1962, he was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Army National Guard. He served as a traditional Guard member for the next 32 years, achieving the rank of Brigadier General and assignment as Assistant Adjutant General.

RETIRED ADMIRALS AND GENERALS SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT

Rear Admiral John W. Adams, USN (Ret.)

Major General Albert B. Akers, USA (Ret.)

Major General John Blatsos, USA (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Harry Blot, USMC (Ret.)

Major General John L. Borling, USAF (Ret.), POW

Vice Admiral Mike Bowman, III, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Roger Box, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bruce Bremner, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Thomas Brown, III, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Tom Bruner, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Lyle Bull, USN (Ret.)

Major General George Cates, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jack Christiansen, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Edward Clexton, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF (Ret.), Former Chief of the National Guard Bureau

Lieutenant General Matthew T. “Terry” Cooper, USMC (Ret.)

Brigadier General Robert Dastin, USAF (Ret.)

General James B. Davis, USAF (Ret.), Classmate of Senator McCain’s at the U.S. Naval Academy, Former Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers, Europe (NATO)

Vice Admiral Walter J. Davis, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Major General Hollis Davison, USMC (Ret.)

Colonel George “Bud” Day, USAF (Ret.), POW, Medal of Honor

Rear Admiral Jerry Denton, USN (Ret.), POW, Former U.S. Senator

Vice Admiral Robert F. Dunn, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Russ Eggers, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Paul Engel, USN (Ret.)

Major General Bill Eshelman, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Merrill Evans, USA (Ret.)

Admiral S. Robert Foley, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPACFLT

Rear Admiral Skip Furlong, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Barton Gilbert, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Andrew Giordano, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Russell W. Gorman, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Ronald J. Hays, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPAC and CINCUSNAVEUR

Rear Admiral Robert P. Hickey, USN (Ret.)

Major General Don Hilbert, USA (Ret.)

Major General Kent Hillhouse, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral A. Byron Holderby, USN (Ret.)

Admiral James L. Holloway, USN (Ret.), Former Chief of Naval Operations

Lieutenant General Jefferson D. Howell, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Evan Hultman, USA (Ret.)

Major General Charles Ingram, USA (Ret.)

Admiral Bobby Inman, USN (Ret.), Former Director, NSA

Major General Harry Jenkins, USMC (Ret.)

Admiral Jerome Johnson, USN (Ret.), Former Vice Chief of Naval Operations

Rear Admiral J. Michael “Carlos” Johnson, USN (Ret.)

General P.X. Kelley, USMC (Ret.), Former Commandant, USMC

Admiral Robert J. “Barney” Kelly, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPACFLT

Admiral Frank Kelso, USN (Ret.), Former Chief of Naval Operations

Major General Phillip G. Killey, USAF (Ret.)

Admiral George “Gus” Kinnear, USN (Ret.), Former COMAIRLANT

Admiral Charles R. “Chuck” Larson, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPAC

Vice Admiral Tony Less, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Frederick L. Lewis, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.), Former CINCUSNAVEUR

Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN (Ret.)

Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPACFLT

Vice Admiral Michael D. Malone, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Daniel P. March, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN (Ret.), POW

Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral William “Scot” McCauley, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Denny McGinn, USN (Ret.)

Major General Ed Mechanbier, USAFR (Ret.), POW

Rear Admiral George Meinig, USN (Ret.)

Major General Robert L. Menist, USA (Ret.)

Admiral Paul David Miller, USN (Ret.), Former CINCLANT

Vice Admiral Joseph Mobley, USN (Ret.), POW

Rear Admiral Patrick D. Moneymaker, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Benjamin Montoya, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Douglas Moore, Jr., USN (Ret.)

General Carl E. Mundy, Jr., USMC (Ret.), Former Commandant, USMC

Rear Admiral Jack Natter, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Warren “Bud” Nelson, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Eddie Newman, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert S. “Rupe” Owens, USN (Ret.)

Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF (Ret.)

Major General John Peppers, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Maurice Phillips, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral David Polatty, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Jon A. Reynolds, USAF (Ret.), POW

Vice Admiral David B. Robinson, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Wayne Rosenthal, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral John R. Ryan, USN (Ret.)

Major General Michael D. Ryan, USMC (Ret.)

Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral James E. Service, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Edward D. “Ted” Sheafer, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Robert F. “Dutch” Shultz, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN (Ret.), POW

Admiral Leighton “Snuffy” Smith, Jr., USN (Ret.), Former CINCUSNAVEUR, CINCSOUTH, Commander IFOR

Lieutenant General Norman Smith, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Stanhope S. Spears, USA, Adjutant General of South Carolina

Lieutenant General Hank Stackpole, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Howie Thorsen, USN (Ret.)

Colonel Leo Thorsness, USAF (Ret.), POW, Medal of Honor

Rear Admiral Ernest E. Tissot, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USN (Ret.)

Major General Alfred A. Valenzuela, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Lloyd “Joe” Vasey, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General W.L. “Bill” Wallace, USA (Ret.)

Major General Gary Wattnern, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Hugh Webster, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General James A. Williams, USA (Ret.), Former Director, DIA

Brigadier General Mitchell M. Willoughby, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Dennis Wisely, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN (Ret.), Former CINCPACFLT

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47 posted on 02/07/2008 9:26:26 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: mtntop3
Great. And totally irrelevant to the point under discussion.

Try actually addressing the issue at hand. We are talking about McCain desire to be President and his political record. Do NOT just scream back the usual Cult of Personality dogma about McCain. That is not going to win any votes here for you guy.

Just screaming insults at people, as you do, because they do not blind worship McCain for his military service 40 years ago is a sure way to ensure he does NOT gain any support and ends up losing in a landslide in Nov.

LBJ and Jimmy Carter served. That did not make them great Presidents. His military service does not ensure McCain would be a great President.

His Military service 40 years ago does NOT answer the questions Conservatives have based his political record of the last 10 years. THAT is the issue we are discussing.

50 posted on 02/07/2008 9:35:23 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Reagan's 11th Commandment is now in effect)
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To: mtntop3
You might recognize some of your fellow guests from the following...

An appeal to authority no more attractive (or convincing) than it was when John Kerry last trotted it out, a mere four years ago.

Conservatives are better than that. Or should be.

102 posted on 02/07/2008 11:50:15 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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