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Six People, Including Two Police Officers, Dead in Kirkwood Shooting (St. Louis, MO suburb)
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Posted on 02/07/2008 7:41:01 PM PST by StarCMC

Six people, including two Kirkwood Police Officers were shot and killed Thursday night when a lone gunman walked into a city council planning meeting and started shooting. The six dead include the gunman.

The Mayor of Kirkwood Mayor Mike Swoboda, two city councilmen, and the Public works director were reported wounded. All had been taken to a local hospital.

Police were able to return fire. The gunman, identified as Charles Lee Thornton, was also killed.

Sources said Thornton was well known to police and city officials. He had disrupted city meetings several times in the past, and had been escorted out of council meetings.

A Post-Dispatch reporter who was attending the session said the 7 p.m. meeting had just started when the shooter, who she identified as Charles Lee "Cookie" Thornton, rushed into the council chambers yelling and began opening fire with at least one weapon. He started yelling "shoot the mayor" while walking around and firing, hitting a police officer first, the reporter said.

The reporter also said the shooter fired at the city attorney, who tried to fight off the attacker by throwing chairs. The shooter then moved behind desk where the council sits and fired more shots at council members.

About 30 people were in the council chambers at the time of the shooting, the reporter said.

Dozens of emergency vehicles were on the scene and an area of several blocks was cordoned off along a busy north-south corridor around the city hall.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: kirkwood; leo; shooting
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1 posted on 02/07/2008 7:41:05 PM PST by StarCMC
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To: Just another Joe; Bahbah

Missouri ping.


2 posted on 02/07/2008 7:41:56 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

There’s some crazy people in this world.


3 posted on 02/07/2008 7:43:24 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: StarCMC
What is the status of CCW in Mo ?

4 posted on 02/07/2008 7:43:31 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: StarCMC

WAY to close to home...I’ve seen the shooter at council meetings before...copters overhead


5 posted on 02/07/2008 7:43:50 PM PST by demsux
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To: StarCMC
Horrific... and nauseating... Prayers
6 posted on 02/07/2008 7:44:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: demsux

What was his beef or was he just insane?

LLS


7 posted on 02/07/2008 7:47:15 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: StarCMC

Lotta nuts in the news today.


8 posted on 02/07/2008 7:47:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: demsux

Glad you werent there.


9 posted on 02/07/2008 7:48:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: StarCMC

Jeez! The Mayor’s son is one of our pilots!!


10 posted on 02/07/2008 7:49:58 PM PST by cardinal4 (http://artoriuscastus.blogspot.com/)
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To: mtbopfuyn

They had recently denied his bar and restaurant a liquor license. He wanted retaliation. He nuts because he did it, but you can connect the dots as to motive.


11 posted on 02/07/2008 7:50:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: StarCMC

I was readign the other thread — this is just so horrible. And no, there is never going to be any kind of justification for such actions.........at least not as far as I am concerned.


12 posted on 02/07/2008 7:52:11 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Kirkwood is where Devlin, Hornbeck, and Ownby were found recently as well. CCW is legal in MO except in government buildings like where the shooting took place tonight.


13 posted on 02/07/2008 7:52:21 PM PST by Darth Gill
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To: cardinal4

There’s been conflicting reports — some have heard the mayor was shot in the hand; Mike Owens at KSDK said “head.”


14 posted on 02/07/2008 7:52:52 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: mylife

Yep.


15 posted on 02/07/2008 7:53:29 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Gabz

Completely agree.


16 posted on 02/07/2008 7:54:04 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“What was his beef or was he just insane?”

I know many folks driven crazy with all the bureacracy they have to go through in our town. And I’m sure more than one has had crazy visions. Its a thin line - and luckily strong enough in most of us to just keep it in our fantasy world of wringing a city councilman’s neck!


17 posted on 02/07/2008 7:54:11 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: StarCMC
He had disrupted city meetings several times in the past, and had been escorted out of council meetings.

So there was plenty of advance warning that this guy was a psycho.

I will guess that this dirtbag was no stranger to both the criminal justice system and the mental health system - yet he was in possession of a firearm.

There are others who are culpable in this matter as well.

18 posted on 02/07/2008 7:54:51 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: StarCMC
Just goes to show: just because there are armed people in the vicinity, doesn't mean that a gunman can't do a hell of a lot of damage first.

It's not an argument against RKBA -- far from it, given how it all ended.

But the carnage in this case should be a rather stark lesson to those who always seem to come out of the woodwork claiming that "if so-and-so had been armed, none of this would have happened."

RKBA is a damned fine thing, but it is not a sure guarantee of stopping a determined gunman before he kills. We should be very careful not to oversell our position.

19 posted on 02/07/2008 7:55:52 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:56:13 PM PST by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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