Posted on 02/07/2008 5:54:51 AM PST by xsrdx
LOS ANGELES - One veteran SWAT officer was killed and another wounded during a shootout with a man who called police and said he had killed three members of his family, police said Thursday.
The standoff with the barricaded gunman continued at 5 a.m., first-assistant police Chief Jim McDonnell said at a news conference.
The standoff started at 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man called police and said he had killed three members of his family, McDonnell said. When the SWAT officers arrived, there was a shootout and the pair were shot.
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10 to 1 it was a drug lab, they say the perp set the house on fire. After 6 hours of tear gas and no flames it wasn’t SWAT starting the fire.
When asked if this was a gang member...The commander stated, well lets just say this was a troubled individual....He avoided confirming this was a gang member....
I don’t think so.
Dopers not usually this dangerous. Stupid, which can be dangerous, but not tactically proficient. Not gangsters either.
First...any perceived prejudice is on your part.
Second...part of my post included intentionally sarcastic and rhetorical questions.
Third...your use of CAPS shows the anger within you.
Fourth...you would be surprised what I know, what experience I have and what I do for work. But it that information will never be posted in a public forum and I have nothing to prove to you, a stranger.
Fifth...regardless of outward circumstances, I do not drink the blue kool-aid.
And you sir do not shut me up in any way shape or form. You neither have the authority (typical cop thug mentality on your part showing through), nor the physical, or digital ability. So deal with it and get over your egotistic self.
Last, unless you were on-scene in this situation, your guesses are as good as anyone else’s. So please don’t try and come across as the police enforcer on all LEO truth and the facts of this story, because you don’t know doodly squat.
...see...I told you that you can’t shut me up!
Though I notice a couple of things about you...
1- your user name is intended to let everyone here know that your are a cop. Bad move. Big puffed up ego on your part. Most respectable LEOs maintain a low profile in public life so as to not come across as full time “cops”. There is, in the posture of a quiet professional, the humility that comes from knowing that you are a public servant. However, by publicly stating that fact in a public forum you desire to puff up your own ego by letting everyone know how important you are (in your own eyes) and that you are “the law”. It is a psychological attempt to make yourself superior to other non-cops/citizens. Your pride and ego shows loud and clear.
2-By telling total strangers to “shut up” your bully tactics are also showing and so too is your anger issue.
3-These two facts combined tell the casual observer that you are the kind of cop that folks would probably call a JBT. They (JBTs) puff themselves up and tell everyone what to do, when to do it, how to think and if the poor listener happens to disagree you’ll tell them to “shut up”.
Get over yourself.
News has the name of the suspect, but they have been advised to withhold that name for a while.
In that neighborhood, it's certainly a strong possibility. There are also a few Latino gangs in the area. The LA Times quotes a neighbor who said that "an elderly Latino woman lived there alone for as long as he has lived in the neighborhood."
I don't know if I'd be willing to completely accept that premise, let's ask the Branch Davidians about the dangers of highly concentrated tear gas and its propellant in enclosed spaces.
bump
Ohhhh, a degree in psychology too. Wow, I’m impressed. Actually, I have been retired from that agency for a long time, hence the”ol”. Your off color “humor” betrays your deep seated animosity, but then you probably can’t bear to face that reality. The officer killed was a subordinate of mine very early in his career, and YES I AM ANGRY! Again YOU weren’t there. I have a VERY good understanding of the specifics of LAPD SWAT training...from the inside...so just go back to eating your fruit loops.
SWAT Officer, 4 Others Die In LA Standoff
Prayers for the officers and their families.
WOW, that's hard to believe.
You are impressed because I described you perfectly...even about the anger. It is also interesting to see that you absolutely had to let everyone know that the officer who was killed, “was a subordinate” of yours. You couldn’t simply leave it as “we worked together”. or I” knew him well”, you had to be sure to let everyone know that you were better than him.
You really do have an ego Sir.
And you weren’t “there” either were you?
No...you weren’t
So what would you have us all believe? That LA SWAT took time out of their schedule to call you at home while you sit in your boxers to keep you informed of the minute-by-minute details? hehehe...give us all a break. You aren’t that important.
Deep seated animosity...no...*laughing*...not at all. I simply work with professionals, not egomaniac bullies.
You would never pass the psych, as you’d trip over your own ego.
And not many of the men would want to work with your mindset, because it gets folks hurt.
Probably best for everyone that you’re retired.
And eating fruit loops? Nah...those sugary fairy tale cereals are for folks like you who live in the fantasy world of their own self-deluded level of importance.
I don’t live there with you.
woollyone out
Yes...Officer Simmons was shot in the face by this b**tard.
May he rest in peace and may God bless his family and friends.
(Wearing my blue LAPD bow today)
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The Chief was at a police convention.
Bratton is known to be out of town whenever something happens in LA
Those guys in the second picture down look like they’re working for the TSA (Thousands Standing Around). Swap uniforms and give them each a shovel to lean on and they’d look like the average road crew.
Edwin Rivera, 21, was identified as the shooter by two LAPD sources. He was described by one source as about 6 feet tall and about 300 pounds. He killed his father and two older brothers, said his cousin, Alex Uribe.
Those are all Metropolitan Division officers, and were close to the deceased. I am not sure if they were relieved after the initial incident....they did swap out officers before the end of the incident. Not sure what role the LASD SEB had in all this, but they were reportedly involved also.
You can see the raid truck in the pictures.
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