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SWAT Officer killed in LA Shootout (Barricaded Suspect)
Associated Press via MSNBC ^ | 2/7/2008 | AP

Posted on 02/07/2008 5:54:51 AM PST by xsrdx

LOS ANGELES - One veteran SWAT officer was killed and another wounded during a shootout with a man who called police and said he had killed three members of his family, police said Thursday.

The standoff with the barricaded gunman continued at 5 a.m., first-assistant police Chief Jim McDonnell said at a news conference.

The standoff started at 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man called police and said he had killed three members of his family, McDonnell said. When the SWAT officers arrived, there was a shootout and the pair were shot.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; lapd; leo; officerdown; swat
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To: Dick Vomer
Any ID on the perp?

No...Bits and pieces coming out now from the neighbors...Hearing a Hispanic female that spoke little English lived with the suspect...

One thing I can say, is this guy was prepared ..Very tightly wound...Ready to check out.

21 posted on 02/07/2008 7:43:40 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Dick Vomer
I’ll admit that I’ve criticized SWAT screw ups, but if these guys went in to save a hostage...they’re a lot braver than I am.

I too have done that...However, this appears to be tailor made for swat...This guy was clearly looking for a fire fight...

22 posted on 02/07/2008 7:46:04 AM PST by dragnet2
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If the house is fully in flames, why is the news media prevented from showing footage?

Maybe to prevent the bad PR when ordinary folks might conclude that the ROE include burning up the perp?

Is it possible that the SWAT final solution SOP is indeed immolation?


23 posted on 02/07/2008 7:50:14 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: dragnet2
One thing I can say, is this guy was prepared ..Very tightly wound...Ready to check out.

Apparently so, making him a little different from the usual knucklehead dope peddlers LAPD SWAT has to take down.

24 posted on 02/07/2008 7:50:28 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: woollyone
Is it possible that the SWAT final solution SOP is indeed immolation?

I'm guessing the fire department will be slow to respond. Just a guess.

25 posted on 02/07/2008 7:51:41 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: woollyone
?If the house is fully in flames, why is the news media prevented from showing footage?

They got a handle on the fire, and now have FF on the roof...Lots of white smoke...At one point, so much smoke, it appeared fully involved....They must be confident this guy is no longer a threat.

I'm hearing they've been lobing in gas for 6 hours...Then the smoke and fire.

26 posted on 02/07/2008 7:53:02 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: xsrdx
Apparently so, making him a little different from the usual knucklehead dope peddlers LAPD SWAT has to take down.

Yep, there is no doubt this suspect was looking for a brawl, and appeared to be somewhat ready for it.

27 posted on 02/07/2008 7:55:55 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: xsrdx

It will be interesting to find out who the shooter was/is, what wound him up, and what FAs he was using..

I’m being told the suspect is in custody...I personally find that hard to believe.


28 posted on 02/07/2008 8:04:50 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I believe he’s dead in custody...


29 posted on 02/07/2008 8:05:40 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I’m being told the suspect is in custody...I personally find that hard to believe.

Probably in a shoebox.

30 posted on 02/07/2008 8:11:52 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: All

Chief of Police Bratton is in British Colombia...How typical of these people running local government departments.


31 posted on 02/07/2008 8:12:30 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: xsrdx

Just damn. We lost an officer here in Sacramento by a 16 year old thug a few days before Christmas. Prayers for them and their families.


32 posted on 02/07/2008 8:13:17 AM PST by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: xsrdx

Heard it again...Reporting suspect in custody.


33 posted on 02/07/2008 8:14:14 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Dog

Must have been a head shot. They usually have good torso armor. Sad. Hope they killed the POS!


34 posted on 02/07/2008 8:15:19 AM PST by Doc Savage (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: xsrdx

2 reports now suspect is in custody via news radio...Kinda makes sennce due to the fact that once the home was on fire FF went up on the roof quickly...

Now hearing they are searching trucks of cars...

News conference coming up soon..


35 posted on 02/07/2008 8:16:08 AM PST by dragnet2
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Er trunks of cars...


36 posted on 02/07/2008 8:16:51 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: CDHart

“Wonder if the perp is an illegal alien?”

This doesn’t sound like something an illegal would do. He might kill his family but wouldn’t make a date with the SWAT team. This is probably an emotionally disturbed white guy that wants someone to kill him.


37 posted on 02/07/2008 8:20:13 AM PST by dljordan
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To: xsrdx
I'm guessing the fire department will be slow to respond. Just a guess.

Yes. It's not in their job description. The fire dept is set up for fighting fires, not fire fights.

38 posted on 02/07/2008 8:22:33 AM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: woollyone
OBVIOUSLY you have a deep seated prejudice. That being the case, I wonder what you actually KNOW - as opposed to what you THINK about SWAT operations.

Having been in almost exactly the same situation, I can tell you that the LAFD WILL NOT enter the building until the suspect(s) are fully controlled. You cannot imagine what happens in these situations, so why don't you just shut up and wait for the facts to come out. BTW, the news media do not have the facts.

39 posted on 02/07/2008 8:22:38 AM PST by oneolcop (Take off the gloves!)
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To: All
Suspect is DEAD.

Hundreds of rounds where exchanged...

Suspect murdered 3 others in the house....all 3 males....Swat officers attempted to remove one of the victims who was still alive when the swat members were shot.

SWAT saying this guy caused them major problems, moving around inside of the home, firing at officers.

40 posted on 02/07/2008 8:23:09 AM PST by dragnet2
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