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A Comment on the The Coulter-Clinton-Buchanan Axis
Classical Values ^ | February 6, 2008 | Bill Whittle

Posted on 02/06/2008 1:59:59 PM PST by TSchmereL

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To: y6162
Assuming the conservative SOTUS judges don’t croak in the next four years, the most likely scenario is that Hillary or Obambi will replace aging liberals. No change to the status quo is likely.

The only difference is that McCain will nominate liberals like Stevens and Souter and Clinton or Obama will nominate ultra-liberals like Ginsburg and Breyer. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to approve any liberal or ultra-liberal that gets nominated.

It probably will not affect the current status quo on the Court (unless, like you said, one of the conservatives unexpectedly croaks in the next 4 years), but whoever gets in will likely be there for the next 30 years.

61 posted on 02/06/2008 3:16:00 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy ("I believe in Santa Claus. I believe in the tooth fairy." - John Edwards)
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To: TSchmereL

“I will vote for McCain in November if he is the Republican nominee because I am convinced Ronald Reagan would do the same thing.”

I see you’re getting a lot of heat from the ‘really, really, truely, principled conservatives’ on this forum for your post. I think you’re absolutely right and they’re absolutely wrong.

I think any one who thinks that their vote is so ‘valuable’ that it can’t be ‘wasted’ on some one like McCain are nothing but a bunch of selfish spoiled brats.


62 posted on 02/06/2008 3:18:31 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: M-cubed

Well said.


63 posted on 02/06/2008 3:18:46 PM PST by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: xmission

Second that.


64 posted on 02/06/2008 3:21:17 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: M-cubed

A true liberal would demand box seats in the toe tapping section.


65 posted on 02/06/2008 3:22:20 PM PST by californio (Coast Guard Vet/ 211 Dick)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Although I would not vote for Hillary or Obama, I will go third party if McCain is the nominee.

I am a Conservative first and a Republican second, so I will NOT abandon my principles just to put a non-conservative Republican in the White House. I'm already looking for a party of genuine conservatives.
I don't believe that NOT voting will send a message to the Republican party, but I think if conservatives voted en mass for a third party, the Republican leadership just might notice. If not, the third party certainly would!

66 posted on 02/06/2008 3:32:24 PM PST by Ignatz ( RENT THIS SPACE)
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To: papertyger

The only real concerns I have is what she can get done in two years without any stops via a Republican majority (I suppose I should say a conservative majority). I see a National/Universal/Free Health Care system that will be a nightmare, I see an amnesty for 20,000,000+ illegals guaranteed to vote the Donkey ticket. I see SCHIP expanded. This is two years. And I see Iran going nuclear and our military numbers dwindle when commissions are resigned and enlistments go down because they will not serve under the Hildebeest. They will remember the way she called General Petreaus a liar even if the MSM and the Republicans won’t ever mention it again.


67 posted on 02/06/2008 3:32:54 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

That is a real concern. Personally, I see no substantive reason to believe she can accomplish in two years, what her husband couldn’t accomplish in 8.


68 posted on 02/06/2008 3:35:57 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: TSchmereL

No, I think what we are saying is that McCain would be the greater “punishment”.


69 posted on 02/06/2008 4:16:08 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: M-cubed

I would emphasize that you don’t get to define conservatism. I would say any man or women who chooses to help bring in the more liberal Government solely out of spite and sour grapes has identified themselves incorrectly. Your not conservative, your a political anarchist. Conservatives don’t back bite, they don’t whine and they understand that compromise is part of governing. Conservatives don’t hide for 4 years while the left makes all policy, tax and regulation decisions. Conservatives don’t slit their own throats and punish the rest of the country because they didn’t get their way. They fight and continue to work hard to bring more voters to the same opinion. They don’t change minds by screaming obscenities or calling people names. They make rational arguments, they use facts. There is a delusional segment here calling themselves conservative and acting just like liberals. I’ll take the 80% conservative John McCain any day of the week over the 90% liberal alternative. I hear a whole lot of “I wont compromise my principals” thrown around, you tell that to troops still in Iraq, putting their lives on the line for every one of you. Tell them that out of pure principle you are going to endanger their well being. We all know what false prophets are, well I think we are beginning to see false conservatism. Bluntly there is a whole lot more to being conservative than immigration and pure tax cuts. McCain was dead wrong on immigration, he was dead right about the tax cuts without spending offsets. There use to be a time when conservatives screamed at the top of their lungs for a balanced budget, not anymore its just give me back my money. Every one wants tax cuts and understands the principle behind limiting the government from spending our money. Well guess what, you just transfered the burden to your kids, McCain understood that.


70 posted on 02/06/2008 4:34:40 PM PST by America-The-Great-1967 (Don't fix the blame, fix the problem.)
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To: papertyger

Keep her? That’s why I married her! /sarc


71 posted on 02/06/2008 5:15:03 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: Bob Mc
A major catastrohpe/catalyst will be necessary.

Like taking out the lame horse republican party with the McCain bullet?

Might be quicker and more merciful than a Huck or a Mitt.
72 posted on 02/06/2008 5:29:36 PM PST by DonnerT (One who will compromise integrity for power has not and gains not!)
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To: TSchmereL
It has nothing to do with punishing anybody.

That theory is the refuge of uninformed minds.

73 posted on 02/06/2008 6:14:40 PM PST by TigersEye (McCain is unfit for office. See my profile page.)
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To: sbMKE

Staying home would mean not voting for your house rep, possibly a state rep, and state and local offices.

Don’t punish any conservatives who happen to be running for office in your district just because the national party is running a turd.


74 posted on 02/06/2008 6:48:44 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: TSchmereL
Very well said.

There are a whole lot of crybaby losers on FR, a bit of a surprise really.

Those who did not vote in the primaries or do not plan to vote in the general election because they don't like any of the candidates are worthless.

75 posted on 02/06/2008 7:16:39 PM PST by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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To: tickmeister

exactly right. We wouldn’t have a 3.5 trillion dollar budget if a dem where in the white house because republicans would have been fighting every day for the last 8 years. But we have a R in the white house, so they go along because he is “OUR” president.
No thanks, when I get shot, I want it to be in the chest while I’m fighting, not in the back while having a beer with a “Friend”....


76 posted on 02/06/2008 7:22:30 PM PST by Robbin
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To: TSchmereL
It is becoming very interesting just how far folks will go to try to get principled people to go along with another RINO for just one more election cycle. Personally, I've been pushed as far as I am willing to be pushed. Since the early 90's I've been asked or told to go along one more time ... and now look where we are. The republicans are basically nominating democrats. Nope, no more.
77 posted on 02/06/2008 7:24:00 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Laissez les bons temps roule!)
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To: M-cubed

Very well put. Thank you.


78 posted on 02/06/2008 7:25:39 PM PST by Robbin
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To: TSchmereL

I will not vote for a Democrat, so I will not vote for McCrazy.

I will work to elect Republican Senators and Congressman, but perhaps for the last time.

Something is seriously broken in the GOP, and I refuse to grab my ankles any longer and hope for it to be painless this time.

The stunning Dem turnout yesterday is a harbinger of things to come. The people, including McCrazy’s beloved Independents and moderates, will not vote for him over Hillary or Obama. McLame won in NE states that will fall in the Dem column in November, so it is a victory without meaning.

People say, but he is good on national security and judges, so forgive him everything else. I say, if you want to give defacto citizenship to over 20 millions Mexicans, you aren’t for national security. And if you were a part of the Gang of 14, I can’t trust you to pick good judges anyway. Besides , soemone who needs Ted Kennedy’s approval on anything if no Republican.

So Hillary or Obama become President. With enough true Republicans in Congress we can stave off disaster for the Republic until 2012.

People get the government they deserve.

And they are about to get it in spades.


79 posted on 02/06/2008 7:41:10 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: TSchmereL

>> and Republicans decide to walk away from their party in droves, what makes them think ...

Hey Whittle, crap is being forced down our throats and we’re gagging. Don’t tell us to take it and enjoy it.


80 posted on 02/06/2008 7:52:52 PM PST by Gene Eric
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