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To: LexBaird

No, the Bible defines what is true. And denominations that believe in the apocrypha do not draw from it any doctrines that conflict with the Bible.

Mormon’s through their extra-Biblical works do draw doctrines that conflict with the Bible, which I started a short list of and you have avoided. Repeatedly.

The thief on the Cross would have called himself a Jew, not a Christian. I would guess that Christ would have called him a Jew.

You’re ignoriing the exlusive claims of Mormonism and why they conflict with Christian belief. You can acknowledge that Mormon’s claim exclusivity in their beliefs, but can’t bring yourself to see how those beliefs conflict with Biblical Christian beliefs.

You’ve accused me of being Anti-Mormon, oblivious, offensive, etc.

The Bible imposes it’s definition. By accepting doctrines outside God’s Word one ceases to be Christian. I don’t see how this is so difficult to accept. It’s actually quite simple.

You’ve only explained why Romney won Utah, not why he won it so disproportionate when compared to other states. Look at this site. Christians galore supporting Romney.

Look at Utah. The opposite is not true.


150 posted on 02/11/2008 1:04:39 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: Deut28
The Bible imposes it’s definition.

If it were only that simple, there would still be but one Christian Church. Unfortunately, the Bible is subject to the interpretation of mere mortals.

By accepting doctrines outside God’s Word one ceases to be Christian. I don’t see how this is so difficult to accept. It’s actually quite simple.

No, by ceasing to believe in Christ, one ceases to be Christian, not by ceasing to believe in man's meager explanations of the Divine nature. If that were so then the doctrinal disputes of the Reformation, where each side was quite insistent that the other's doctrine was damning, were correct. The "other side" ceased to be Christians when they deviated from the accepted doctrines.

You confuse heretical belief with non-belief.

Look at Utah. The opposite is not true.

Only if you continue to define Mormons as not Christian. Mormons most certainly do not define themselves that way. They were not voting "against Christians". For those whom religion entered into their vote, most were voting for a member of a particular sect of Christian, which is the polar opposite of voting against a person because of their membership in a particular sect. Identity politics vs prejudicial politics.

I imagine that for the most part, "Evangelicals" (as the press would group them) who voted for Huck based on his S. Baptist faith made a similar choice of "for one of Us" as opposed to "against one of Them." But, there were a significant minority who made it plain that their vote was an "against any Mormon" choice. I think you'll find the equivalent "against any Evangelical" voters among Mormons to be vanishingly few, based on their historical support of people like GWB.

155 posted on 02/11/2008 3:28:59 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Deut28

Hey Deut28:

s’matter? Having trouble coming up with Bible verses to back up you claims that only Mormons have traditions?

In case you have memory lapse, here they are again.

What Bible scripture authorizes an infallible Deified Pope as head of the Church?

What Bible verse explains Purgatory? And who is supposed to go there?

Which book in the New Testament tells us to pray with Rosary Beads?

Where in the New or Old Testament does it say to pray or worship St. Mary, or any Saints for that matter?

How did repeated Hail Mary prayers come to mean anything? And don’t they violate the New Testament admonition to NOT conduct “repeated” prayers like the “heathens?”

Which Bible verse explains the process of being Cannonized? How many Saints are too many Saints? And which Bible verse sets the rules for becoming a Saint?

What about statues of St. Mary? Doesn’t the Bible strictly forbid worshiping statues?

Where in the Bible does it authorize the use of Holy Water?

Why do Priests have to be Celibate?

What Bible verse authorizes us attend Confession... to a moral human being in a Confession Booth?

What about eating fish on Friday, and why is (was) that a sin?

I could go on and on, but you get the point.

Why aren’t you flame-throwing at all elected Catholics, who seem to have their own traditions just like the Mormons?

Don’t get me wrong. I love Catholics (and Mormons) as Brothers in Christ.

I married a Catholic woman, and even take my kids to Mass occasionally.

But I certainly don’t have hatred in my heart toward any denomination like you seemingly have against Mormons.


159 posted on 02/12/2008 1:08:20 PM PST by Edit35
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