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To: elfman2

You posted: I can stomach Romney, barely, but expect to be voting Clinton/Obama just to help send a message that we should never allow a liberal like either McCain or Huck to take our party.
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Reluctantly, I will vote McCain in November. When at war, you use the best weapon you have available. I would prefer a machine gun, but if all I can find is a stick, I will use that, even if I know that I will likely lose. So, I will vote GOP in hopes of keeping a relatively conservative Supreme Court in place, and encouraging gridlock in congress.

I have considered the “that’ll teach ‘em a lesson” approach, and if I thought it might work, I would perhaps adopt it. But I am doubtful that a Clinton or Obama presidency would teach the country that we should be going conservative. Reagan did it, but probably got elected only because Carter presided over a rotten economy, the kidnapping of hostages in Iran and an absolutely horrible national defense/foreign policy (the latter probably didn’t have much effect on the vote, except for the botched rescue attempt in the desert in the summer of 1980.). Many, maybe most, Americans were fooled into believing that Bill Clinton did good things for us while president. Americans will believe anything.

I don’t like what I am about to say, but I will throw it out there. I think we should consider injecting race more heavily into the Democratic primary process, portraying at every turn that Clinton is trying to deny blacks “their” president. There are other techniques that can be used. This would have the effect of either getting Obama the nomination or getting blacks to dislike Hillary enough that they won’t support her in the fall. If Obama gets the nomination, (and again I hate to say it, but it would likely work), we should consider subtly injecting race into the general election. It will be out there anyway. Obama has been and will be using it to his benefit as best he can. White Southern democrats won’t need much encouragement to sit it out or vote against Obama. Say what you will about McCain (and I know you will!), Republicans in the south will turn out to vote against Obama.

I hesitate to post this, and I frankly find it distasteful, but this is politics, and war. You can hate McCain, but putting in a democrat will not teach the country or Republicans, any sort of lesson. The vast majority of our citizens are simply too dumb, or too uncaring, to get such a lesson.


80 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:32 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441
I hesitate to post this, and I frankly find it distasteful, but this is politics, and war. You can hate McCain, but putting in a democrat will not teach the country or Republicans, any sort of lesson. The vast majority of our citizens are simply too dumb, or too uncaring, to get such a lesson.

If McCain is the nominee, I will vote, but not for the office of President. Why be complicit in the destruction of the country? On amnesty, McCain is no better than Obama or Hillary. The liberal agenda will be pushed thru because the Dems will become the permanent majority party based on the Hispanic vote. By 2050, one in four residents of this country will be Hispanic, up from the 1% in 1950, and that is without amnesty. We have added 100 million to our population since 1970, mainly due to immigration, legal and illegal, and we will add another 167 million by 2060, again without amnesty. Who would have ever thought that we would see an America of half a billion people in about 50 years?

Just McCain getting the nomination will start a tidal wave of illegals trying to get in here for the amnesty that surely will come whether McCain, Obama, or Hillary is in the WH. The Spanish language radio and TV stations are really playing up the fact that McCain is going to get the nomination and that he will solve their "problem,", i.e., he will legalize their status here. And we will be no where near securing our border to stop the onslaught.

Immigration will be off the table in the general election. We have lost an opportunity to educate the American people on the issue. And McCain will view his nomination as a mandate for his position, i.e., legalizing the status of the 12 to 20 million illegals already here and the estimated 66 million LEGAL immigrants who will enter thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. If that happens, everything else is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

86 posted on 02/06/2008 5:31:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: NCLaw441
The best way to neutralize Osama Obama is to keep harping on his connections to the Muslim faith. I still think he may be a closet Islamist, but who is gonna care, Oprah obviously doesn’t.
155 posted on 02/06/2008 7:21:38 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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