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To: r9etb
IMO, the folks who are voting for McCain have gotten sick of "conservatives" and their single-issue antics. Conservatives might want to learn from their mistakes -- but many or most will not.

Exactly...by no longer holding their noses to vote for whatever RINO gets the GOP nomination. Or were you suggesting that conservatives just abandon their principles altogether?

1,738 posted on 02/05/2008 9:25:16 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
Exactly...by no longer holding their noses to vote for whatever RINO gets the GOP nomination. Or were you suggesting that conservatives just abandon their principles altogether?

I think that's what he meant. Learn from our mistakes and become liberals!
1,766 posted on 02/05/2008 9:28:43 PM PST by CottonBall (The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. (Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854 ))
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To: Junior_G
Or were you suggesting that conservatives just abandon their principles altogether?

This cycle has been dominated by single-issue "conservatives" who gleefully purge and bash one another over minor variations over some principle or other. It has made conservatism look very trivial. Certainly we have stopped being the generators of ideas, and become slogan-slingers. Conservatives really aren't putting out much in the way of thoughtful, practical ideas these days.

And also, conservatives have done very, very little to make a convincing case on just about anything -- whether it's same-sex marriage, or support for the war, or immigration, or pretty much any issue you want to name. They've simply stood around touting their "conservative principles," without explaining why they're good or important.

I think illegal immigration ends up being THE single issue that makes self-described conservatives look most like a group of loons: the over-the-top rhetoric of the "build the wall NOW" crowd has led to those folks crapping their own beds. At least, that's what I would guess is driving the California results.

1,857 posted on 02/05/2008 9:46:27 PM PST by r9etb
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