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To: Leisler
As the wife of a Naval aviator, I won’t be doing any bragging about McCain’s service or disservice to our country.

I know what a REAL HERO is, and McCain is only a survior at best.

236 posted on 02/05/2008 4:27:02 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek; Leisler
As the wife of a Naval aviator, I won’t be doing any bragging about McCain’s service or disservice to our country. I know what a REAL HERO is, and McCain is only a survior at best.

Thanks for explaining that to us, Coldwater Creek. Until you came along, I actually though that the conduct below classified as heroic. How foolish of me!

Please explain to us what REAL courage is so I don't make such a dumb mistake again.

In July 1968, McCain's father was named Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC), stationed in Honolulu and commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater.[4] McCain was immediately offered a chance to return home early:[39] the North Vietnamese wanted a mercy-showing propaganda coup for the outside world, and a message that only privilege mattered that they could use against the other POWs.[43] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation due to the Code of Conduct of "first in, first out": he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[47] McCain's refusal to be released was even remarked upon by North Vietnamese officials to U.S. envoy Averell Harriman at the ongoing Paris Peace Talks. .......... In August 1968, a program of vigorous torture methods began on McCain, using rope bindings into painful positions and beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery Teeth and bones were broken again as was McCain's spirit; the beginnings of a suicide attempt was stopped by guards.[39] After four days of this, McCain signed an anti-American propaganda "confession" that said he was a "black criminal" and an "air pirate",[39] although he used stilted Communist jargon and ungrammatical language to signal the statement was forced......... McCain refused to meet with various anti-war peace groups coming to Hanoi, such as those led by David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, and Rennie Davis, not wanting to give either them or the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory based on his connection to his father. .... McCain was finally released from captivity on March 15, 1973,[54] having been a POW for almost an extra five years due to his refusal to accept the out-of-sequence repatriation offer.

Since you claim to know what a REAL HERO actually does, as opposed to what McCain did in Vietnam, I can only assume that you know such a person.

Please tell us what that person actually did that makes John McCain's conduct pale in comparison to the conduct of a mere "survivor".

It must have been realy awesome. I can't wait to hear the details!

247 posted on 02/05/2008 7:08:03 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Coldwater Creek

Still anxiously waiting for your reply to #247.


249 posted on 02/05/2008 7:21:59 AM PST by fideist (Proud Father of a U.S. Marine.)
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