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To: El Gato

“At least in Massachusetts, we did. The Minute Men were definitely well regulated and the regular militia companies, who were not quite as well trained, were also pretty well regulated. Ask General Gage and Lt. Col Smith of His Majesty’s Army. If not for Gage sending up Lord Percy with a couple of cannon, while the colonial cannon had been dismounted and hidden so the Regulars could not confiscate them, and their carriages burned by the Regulars, Lt.Col. Smith’s force would have been all but wiped out. And that was with very little input from “higher command” on the colonial militia side. Even the “Old Men of Menotomy” were pretty well-regulated, in spite of being totally unorganzied, and over age. Even old “Mother Mother Batherick” proved to be pretty well-regulated.

Make no mistake, the first battle of the Revolution was fought between a “well-regulated” militia force and the British Regular Army, not between an armed mob and a much better trained and equipped Regular Army force.”

I will say it again. WE did not have a well regulated militia. We, as a nation, did not exist until after the Revolutionary war. All militia, both those who fought for England and those who fought against England belonged to the English.


274 posted on 02/05/2008 6:24:30 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
WE did not have a well regulated militia. We, as a nation, did not exist until after the Revolutionary war.

A lame difference without distinction (for purposes of this discussion). George Washington et al did not spring into existence on July 4, 1776 (or whenever the symbology changed to your satisfaction). If anything, it shows the reverse of what you attempt to: the people, acting _outside_ government prohibitions, formed a militia with militia-suitable arms - an act later formally protected by the 2nd Amendment.

275 posted on 02/05/2008 6:32:18 PM PST by ctdonath2 (GWB wept for those who suffer. HRC wept for herself.)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
I will say it again. WE did not have a well regulated militia. We, as a nation, did not exist until after the Revolutionary war. All militia, both those who fought for England and those who fought against England belonged to the English.

No they did not. They belonged, sort of, to their town or township, as much as they belonged to anything except themselves. They went by the names of their town or township. The Acton Militia, the Concord Militia, the Lincoln Militia and of course the Lexington Militia. Not all had Minuteman companies, but most did. They were coordinated, loosely, by the Committees of Correspondence, which also did not belong the English.

282 posted on 02/05/2008 7:07:26 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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