[OPS4]

McCain betrayed no one, just because he does not agree with everyting in a conservative plat form does not make him less of a candidate to me that any demorat running.

Romney is surely no fiscal conservative.

[TheThirdRuffian]

I fully agree that Romney is no fiscal conservative; he and Hillary are in agreement that wages should be garnished to pay for socialized health care.

I do disagree that McCain betrayed conservatives — he pretends (or at least pretended) to be a conservative and then routinely sided with Democrats on things like tax cuts, just for example.

It’s a pathetic group left.

I won’t vote for any of the remaining declared candidates; I just want them bloodied and in a stalemate come convention.

That or hope they all die in an asteroid crash.

[bill1952]

he does not agree with everything in a conservative plat form does not make him less of a candidate to me that any democrat running.
Everything?? Everything??

The man IS a democrat. - In the mold of a Lieberman on defense.

Okay, lets give that thought a roll here and see what turns up:

1)Endorses participation in the ICC. - so does hillary.
2)Voted against the Bush tax cuts. - so did hillary.
3)Wants Gitmo closed. - so does hillary.
4)Demands an end to waterboarding. - so does hillary.
5)Wants terrorists to have access to trial in America. - so does hillary.
6)Wants America to be bound to a “Global Warming” agenda. - so does hillary.
7)Wants amnesty, and authored and voted for McCain/Kennedy - so did hillary.
8)Does not exclude known criminals and felons from amnesty. - neither does hillary.
9)Does not believe that immigrants of any type should learn English. - Neither does hillary.
10) has zero record on appointing judges. Neither does hillary but they both did great damage to the process recently, john with the gang of .. how many? and hillary with her voting record.
11) John has a history of scandal and an ill controlled temper - so does hillary.
12) John opposes drilling in ANWAR - so does hillary.

Take out one or two fiscal issues and the man is closer to most dems than most dems are to each other!