Posted on 02/04/2008 7:36:26 AM PST by VRing
CANTON -- Hope Steffey's night began with a call to police for help. It ended with her face down, completely naked and sobbing on a jail cell floor. Steffey says Stark County sheriff's deputies used excessive force and assaulted her during a strip search 15 months ago, according to a federal lawsuit.
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Fill in the blanks with ANYTHING you want. You can’t get me to buy that 5 female deputies needed the help of two male deputies to strip a woman.
Start with that VERY BAD case and work backwords into
WHY DID SHE NEED TO BE STRIPPED.
WHY WAS SHE ARRESTED.
I hope she OWNS THEM.
Well, yes. I believe that's probably why the main thug cops in the beating got a couple years. Why do you keep bringing up this lame example? Do you forget the outcome of the cops being sent to federal prison?
I'm not a cop hater by any stretch but they have to play by the rules too and when they don't they need to be taken down.
It also looks like we have finally really arrived at the ‘One Party State’ here in the United States.
Exactly what the left has been striving for: Marxism.
And we're almost there.
The context, of course, would be that she was potentially suicidal. You don’t want to leave her with anything with which to hang herself.
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Interesting that there is no mention of her being put on suicide watch. Weird, huh? Apparently they only thought she was suicidal when they had her on her face, cuffed and stripping her.
Certainly that would not have been another department policy not followed, would it?
That Jewess had it coming — right, r9etb? After all, they wouldn’t have arrested her if she weren’t guilty!
Baloney. You are adding apples and oranges. How on earth can you condone the cops behavior??????????
Baloney. You are adding apples and oranges. How on earth can you condone the cops behavior??????????
I would argue that this type of behavior is fast becoming the rule. Way too many cases point out the FACT that many cops just love to abuse their power. Look at all the SWAT team fubars, unjust taserings, abuses like that in the video, and just general all around boorish behavior by the police.
That Jewess had it coming — right, r9etb?
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That’s a tad over the top, B-Chan, and I’ve been arguing with r9 the whole thread. Do you two have history? Kiss and make up and/or get a room :-)
I neither condone nor condemn them, because I don't have any facts. And neither do you, but you're all ready to hang the cops. I'm not the one with the problem here, FRiend.
But having seen plenty of stories like this, I've learned to recognize a "more to the story" story when I see one, and this definitely looks lije one of them.
I don’t know.
No history that I'm aware of....
What you said... and then after it was all said and done, she was cited for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. I didn’t know disorderly conduct warranted a strip search... ??? Seems pretty extreme to me.
I think the office firewall is blocking it.
Well tell me then, if they were afraid she was going to commit suicide, why would they put her in a concrete cell, where one could easily stand on the bench and jump head first onto the concrete cell floor?
If suicide is the excuse, why was she not put in a padded cell, taken to a hospital, or restrained while in custody, etc?
“Filed under, “There is one hell of a lot more to this story than this lady’s attorney is telling us.”
There always seems to be “more to the story” when the cops are looking bad.
That would be a good start. The system as it currently stands is nothing more than a program for public control by means of city-funded street gangs. We don't need legions of heavily-armed bullies, psychos, and nutcases (each with a license to kill) roaming the streets.
In fact, we don't need police as police exist today at all. If they all vanished tomorrow it would not affect the lives of most people in my city. The police neither prevent nor reduce crime; they merely investigate it, and sometimes commit it.
What do we really need cops for, anyway? To investigate felonies? Private investigators could be hired to do criminal investigations on an ad hoc basis, and at far less cost (and danger) to the taxpayer. Patrol the streets? That can be done better from neighborhood police boxes staffed by unarmed officers who know the people in their neighborhood personally and aren't so stupid that they can't distinguish between criminals and people in trouble. Respond to emergencies? The cops don't do that well as it is; there's a reason people say, "Dial 911 and die". (And, as this poor woman found out, calling 911 can easily lead to an even bigger emergency than the one the caller started with.) I can see having some sort of code enforcement agency to keep restaurants and so forth in line with health regulations, and maybe a riot squad to put down civil unrest, but I see no need for an army of public-funded gangsters who do little but bust heads, hassle teenagers, and run speed traps.
Have you ever lived in a city where no effective law enforcement presence existed? I have: Los Angeles, after the '94 Northridge quake. The cops in the Valley were all busy pulling bodies out of the rubble; there was no "police presence", no 911 response, and no problems in my neighborhood. We all looked out for each other while the Blue Army was away. And guess what? Society didn't come to an end! Wow, how did we ever survive without Officer Stripsearch McTaser to keep us in line?
We need to zero out police budgets and rebuild the public safety system in this country from the ground up. Each locality would be centered on a small, professional core of armed military-style officers, assisted by a network of well-trained, unarmed neighborhood-based watchmen. Such a network would be far less prone to committing abuses, and would be much cheaper to operate besides. The police network in each locality ought to be under the control of a state police agency accountable to the legislature, and each state police authority should be under the supervision of a federal public safety commission, accountable to Congress. And all law enforcement officers and personnel should be subject to a strict federal criminal code regulating police conduct — something similar to the UCMJ.
This system works well in other countries; I believe it could work here as well.
And before you start calling names, I am as far from a Libertarian as a person can be. By FR standards, I'm something of an authoritarian. Check my profile if you don't believe me.
Well tell me then, if they were afraid she was going to commit suicide, why would they put her in a concrete cell, where one could easily stand on the bench and jump head first onto the concrete cell floor?
If suicide is the excuse, why was she not put in a padded cell, taken to a hospital, or restrained while in custody, etc?
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