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Once a Thorn, McCain Now Courts a Wary Party
New York Times ^ | February 4, 2008 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 02/03/2008 10:31:15 PM PST by Plutarch

Edited on 02/04/2008 1:37:37 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elisabethbumiller; mccain; nytimes; rino
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To the NYT it was McCain's support for the Iraq war that imploded his campaign last summer, not Amnesty.

Looks like McCain supplied this reporter some of that endless access, and reassured her that he would do the least he needed to mollify and bamboozle those stupid conservatives, while sticking to the line that gladdens the NYT.

1 posted on 02/03/2008 10:31:18 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
I sure hope he doesn’t win many states this week.

I understand his funding is screwed, as he is the only candidate to accept funds from the government, his hands will be tied for some time.

He will implode.

2 posted on 02/03/2008 10:39:09 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Plutarch

If McCain had reversed himself on the Iraq war he’d be out of the race now. Amnesty imploded his campaign and he knows it and isn’t likely to try it again. What McCain needs to do is go on Rush’s show and talk to him. McCain’s problem is that he has been in Washington too long. He has too many liberal friends. I have no doubt he is a conservative. His positions are more conservative or on parity with the other two candidates running. Romney wants Universal Health care mandates at least both Huckabee and McCain are rejecting that idea. I don’t care for any of them so all is left is to go down the line and compare them and Romney has about as much credibility as Huckabee in my eyes. The thorn I know is better than the two seem to have no prick.


3 posted on 02/03/2008 10:40:35 PM PST by Maelstorm ("Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government...He told us to do it." Fred Thompson)
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To: Plutarch

If thats courting, I don’t think that McCain will get to first base.


4 posted on 02/03/2008 10:41:48 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Plutarch

Wait a minute! McCain has had his “Romney” moment. Just like Romney, he’s changed his spots overnight. He’s now FOR building the fence and securing the borders. Romney’s now solidly pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun and pro-borders. And he’s also suddenly a foreign policy expert and military genius, just like McCain. Ask them. They’ll both swear to it. Scout’s honor. Can’t tell either from Reagan himself, God rest his soul.


5 posted on 02/03/2008 10:43:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim-Rob, you brought up some good points.

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“...pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun and pro-borders...”
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Guns, the 2nd Amendment issue, will hopefully be dealt with by the Supremes before the election in Nov.

The pro-life issue will be dealt with two ways: by getting more conservative judges in position, both Supreme and Federal bench. Romney has promised to do that. McCain seems to have problems with the 1st Amendment - Freedom of Speech.

Romney lives the pro-family life. That is more important to me than what he says.

Romney has the disapproval of Dubya Bush over immigration. That speaks volumes about being pro-Borders. McCain said his ideas and those of Dr. Juan Hernandez are one and the same - in other words, no borders at all!

What’cha think?


6 posted on 02/03/2008 10:53:16 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: Jim Robinson
My favorite photo of the day :)

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7 posted on 02/03/2008 10:53:48 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Plutarch

They keep saying Rush is done. But they keep bring his name up. Hey MSM does he still matter or not?


8 posted on 02/03/2008 10:56:32 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: SatinDoll
Giuliani promised to appoint constructionist judges too, but when we looked into his appointment record, guess what? He appointed mostly liberals and democrats. Wonder what kind of judges we'll find lurking in Romney's appointment record?

Oh, I know. Not his fault. The liberals made him do it. ®

9 posted on 02/03/2008 11:00:47 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: catbertz

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!


10 posted on 02/03/2008 11:03:10 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Can’t tell either from Reagan himself, God rest his soul.

Sure can. Neither one was a registered Democrat for over 30 years... Reagan was. Neither one has voted for the Democratic candidate in 8 straight presidential Elections.. Reagan did.

Neither one has openly campaigned and donated money to dozens of Democratic candidates for congress and president.. Reagan did.

I covered Reagan in 1980. Every time he talked to a labor union crowd he told them His two Political Hero's had been and still were Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

Neither of the two men you put down come close to having the leftist liberal background of Ronald Reagan.

Reagan was a Registered Democrat just 4 years before he ran for Governor of California. He spoke for Goldwater at the 1964 Republican convention in an attempt to overcome Reagan's huge RINO reputation.

If Reagan was a Conservative then so was every Democratic president from 1932 until 1963. Even Ike was way too conservative for Reagan. Reagan supported and campaigned for Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson.

11 posted on 02/03/2008 11:09:31 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Jim Robinson

The system in Massechusetts is different than the Federal system. Romney had to accept nominees chosen by a some committee. As President, chooses candidates he wants.

I supported Duncan Hunter, then Fred Thompson, now it’s Romney. Not my 1st choice, but at least he has been in business, and not government service all his life, and met a payroll and had to deal with the convoluted tax system. Notice Romney hasn’t made a peep about the IRS. Wonder if, after elected, he’ll propose a flat tax and isn’t saying anything because of the ruckus it would cause.


12 posted on 02/03/2008 11:10:59 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: SatinDoll

Like the man said. Not his fault. The liberals made him do it.

Guess what. We have liberals in the US Congress too AND they’re in charge. Kennedy and Co. will OWN Romney. They did in Massachusetts and they will in Washington, DC. They already own him lock, stock and barrel.


13 posted on 02/03/2008 11:18:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: catbertz
Perfect picture and caption.

John McCain-the MSM's chosen presidential candidate for the Republican party.

Of course all this media love of McCain will be over in an instant- The moment the democrats name their nominee.

14 posted on 02/03/2008 11:22:36 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for congress, Pray for our nation.)
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To: Plutarch

I guess I’m a masochist since I occasionally tune in to listen to Rush. Does McCain not realize that the last thing he needs at the moment is to be insulting republicans?

I wonder how much more money he can raise before he reaches campaign limits.


15 posted on 02/03/2008 11:45:08 PM PST by psjones (u)
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16 posted on 02/03/2008 11:48:23 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Common Tator; Jim Robinson
Hi CT! Don't lie about Reagan. You keep spreading these falsehoods about Reagan, even calling him a RINO in the past. You're the real RINO!

For starters, Reagan was a Republican for 42 years and a Democrat for 29 years. Reagan didn't vote eight straight times for the Democrat nominee. He voted for FDR four times and Truman once. Reagan never supported Adlai Stevenson. In 1952 and 1956 Reagan voted for Eisenhower. In 1960 he voted for Nixon. In 1962, after the Democratic Party made a huge shift to the left, Reagan became a Republican --- the party left him, remember?

There are a whole lot of Democrats Reagan donated money to during his time as a Democrat. Once he joined the GOP he didn't look back.

And if you want to be serious about it, a case can be made that FDR and JFK were less liberal than McCain and Romney. FDR actually wanted to end the federal governments control over Social Security within 20 years and make it a private retirement account system. Today we have Romney proposing the Feds take control of the US health care system --- 1/7th of the US economy and a first step on the road to socialized medicine. And lets not forget, JFK gave the Americans the largest single tax cut since the advent of the 16th amendment. McCain couldn't even support Bush43`s recent tax cuts.

You are ALL wrong, as usual.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 12:03:28 PM PST by Reagan Man (N.Y. GIANTS SUPER BOWL 42 CHAMPIONS!!!)
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To: Reagan Man
According to a Los Angeles Times article headlined "Romney isn’t the first to flip on abortion.”

In 1967, then-California Gov. Reagan signed a liberal abortion law legalizing the procedure in cases where a woman’s mental as well as physical health was at risk.

The number of abortions in California soared after the bill was passed, and Reagan came to regret singing it, the Times reported. By the time he ran for president in 1980, Reagan had declared his support for a constitutional amendment prohibiting all abortions except to save the life of a woman.

18 posted on 02/04/2008 6:40:24 PM PST by Common Tator
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You didn’t really respond to the original point of issue and instead, changed the direction of the debate. So be it.

For all intents and purposes, by 1968 Reagan was adamantly “pro-life”, or what was called at the time, “anti-abortion”. The so-called liberalization reasoning you’re harping on is overblown. The 1967 Therapeutic Abortion Act that Reagan signed into law was advertised as a compassionate law that would be used to deal with the difficult abortion cases. The bill was limited to substantial risk that would gravely impair the physical or mental health of the woman, along with cases of rape and incest. Reagan was apprehenive from the get-go and feared possible wide spread abuse. Reagan at no time favored abortion on demand, personally or as a matter of public policy. Reagan always opposed Roe v Wade.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 7:32:42 PM PST by Reagan Man (N.Y. GIANTS SUPER BOWL 42 CHAMPIONS!!!)
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To: Common Tator
BTW.....

>>>>>According to a Los Angeles Times article headlined "Romney isn’t the first to flip on abortion.”

As I pointed out, Reagan never flipped on abortion. Romney supported abortion rights from as early as 1970, when his Mother ran for the Senate. Romney also supported Roe v Wade and abortion on demand. In 2005 Romney said he had a politcal ephiphany and was no longer pro-choice. BULL! It was political expediency that drove Romney to declare himself pro-life. Romney knew a run for the GOP nomination in 2008 would fail, if he remained publicly pro-abortion.

20 posted on 02/04/2008 7:41:21 PM PST by Reagan Man (N.Y. GIANTS SUPER BOWL 42 CHAMPIONS!!!)
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