Posted on 02/03/2008 4:58:36 AM PST by tomnbeverly
No matter how you slice it, McCain is DOA after the primaries. Base is toast. MSM fries McCain on age and temperament.
To do list:
Vacation in Bahamas , November 1 through November 8.
HOLY CRAP ... THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!
“Romney leads McCain by 37 percent to 34 percent in California. The poll’s margin of error is 2.9 percentage points.”
GOD IS WATCHING!!!!!!!!!
THIS JUST IN TODAY:
ROMNEY TAKES 18 DELEGATES IN MAIN !!!!!!!
CLOSING THE GAP!!!!!!!!!!!
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE4DA103AF93BA25757C0A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
Many people think the contract with America was evil. You forget you want to deal in facts the libs do not.
He'd still support it. So would Hillary.
If Hillary were pres she could ignore conservatives safely and we'd have very little say in whatever immigration plan was cooked up.
McCain would have a lot harder time ignoring the majority of his own party. We may not get all we want but, unlike with Hillary, we get some, maybe even a lot.
And remember, it's harder to change or repeal a law that's been passed, than keep a law from being passed.
And immigration is not the only issue.
And remember, McCain is still not the nominee. Mitt may be making a comeback.
LOL thats spelled Maine...anyway... It doesn’t matter to me if Romney wins I will line up and support him... Even though I don’t think he can beat Hillary but whatever I will faithful do my part..
Not like some here if the reverse is true that in fact was the point of my entire thread..
McCain gets hammered and Romney gets praised and no one knows why because they both suck.
If your answer is McCain, then I suggest you study a bit more. If he's the nominee and by some miracle wins the Presidency, I hope you are right. But as he is the favored candidate of the MSM, (ask yourself how that happened), I don't trust him to fight any war other than the one he fights against republicans.
With me, it's personal. I'm from Arizona. I voted for him and have regretted it ever since. Your hopeful arguments for him can't undo my experience and change my mind. I suggest you take to heart all of the other comments against him or at least consider them with a somewhat open mind.
If he ends up POTUS, I pray that I am wrong about him, but he certainly won't get my vote.
1. First, it is his changing positions on gay marriage, guns, abortion, and "fees" raised in Massachusetts.
2. Secondly, there is that little issue of his lack of military service which also trickles down to his five sons (and, look, I know the argument about it not being required but I'm a vet and it means a lot to me).
3. Thirdly, Republicans are simply outnumbered by Democrats and, of the independent majority, most of them are moderate.
So, succinctly, I don't see how the heck he ever wins against Hillary and the Dems (the proof of it is the 2000 election where Bush LOST the popular vote against a scandal-ridden Clinton administration and its vice president and, in 2004, he only topped Kerry by 2 percentage points (62M to 59M votes) despite the memory of 9-11 fresh in everyone's mind.)
The keys to victory in this election, uphill because of the Bush administration initial mishandling of the war in Iraq, is those moderate independents and Democrats dissatisfied with the bad taste of Clinton. And, IMO, McCain gets them but Romney doesn't!
Ann just wants to have new material to write about during Hillary’s reign.
“The keys to victory in this election, uphill because of the Bush administration initial mishandling of the war in Iraq, is those moderate independents and Democrats dissatisfied with the bad taste of Clinton. And, IMO, McCain gets them but Romney doesn’t!”
The keys you offer will run the driver right over the cliff. McCain has absolutely no chance without the conservative base of the GOP. A vote for McCain is a vote for McCain and a vote for Hillary. Besides the majority of independents are center right. The winning coalition is center righ not center left. But that is all moot because Republicans need 99.9% of their conservative base to have any shot at all.
Many establishment GOP’rs will attempt to blame conservatives for not coming out and voting, but the real blame lies at the foot of the establishment for attempting to first put Giulliani and now McCain. They are the failure and they are the reason for defeat in November.
Is David Frum a freeper?
You post reminds me.....I haven’t had time to look.
What are liberal conservatives thinking about at their forums?
The Clowns, Darwin Central types and Pachyderms and Wideawakes....
anybody been looking at what they are saying....curious
“1. John McCain and Mitt Romney are both good and decent men.”
John McCain takes great pleasure in squatting down and taking a huge dump on conservatives. If you wanna suck up to him, you go right ahead. Me, I don’t want another “moderate” Gerald Ford-Bob Dole type that’s guaranteed to lose.
“If you don’t believe as I believe, every thought, every word, every utterance, you are unworthy of my vote. If you can’t do it precisely as I dictate, you are unworthy of my vote.
The fact I will elect a Marxist by disapproval of the minutest perceived imperfection is not relevant. Death and dishonor are preferable to casting a vote for someone who lacks the perfection of credentials I demand.
The country can go to hell, but I will remain true to my biases and even some personal bigotry while not voting or while actively killing the candidate I find repugnant. My thoughts will remain pure even as the country is destroyed and I can smugly say “not my fault, I laid out a pure and perfect course”
Do the math! Mitt cannot win (and, if all of those independents are center right, where they in 2000? And, also in 2004, when we had possibly the most conservative wartime president in history running against one of the most liberal anti-war figures, yet still managed only a 2 point victory?)
“The fact I will elect a Marxist by disapproval of the minutest perceived imperfection is not relevant”
The GOP establishment should have thought of that before they elected they put the Marxist Clinton in with their support of Giulianni and now McCain. The loss is total and inexcusable and also at the doorstep of the GOP Party infrastructure. Nice work.
Thank you! I think we all needed that dose of reality here today.
Mitt can win. Why not choose a stable, intelligent, business-savvy family man over a crazed kook who finest moment was when he was shot down?
Do the math! Mitt cannot win
Neither can McCain - he will give the Dems a near landslide with bigger majorities in the House,Senate and gubernatorial races.
and, if all of those independents are center right
That’s not opinion, that is fact.
where were they in in 2004, when we had possibly the most conservative wartime president in history running against one of the most liberal anti-war figures, yet still managed only a 2 point victory?)
Poor management of the war and even worse PR ineptness by President Bush in gettig the people behind the war.
LOL... I am saving that one because there are some on here that is their creed... but I still can’t understand how they Square a vote for Romney ...
I guess they would rather have a person that lies about their positions than one that stands with conviction.. shame same thing happened to Bush...
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