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How the Clintons will Destroy John McCain
To The Point News ^ | Thursday, 31 January 2008 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 02/03/2008 12:25:04 AM PST by ThePythonicCow

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Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler   

Thursday, 31 January 2008


The number of fellow Senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large.  Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."

Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum, or Jim Inhofe.  "The man is unhinged," one Senator told me.  "He is frighteningly unfit to be Commander-in-Chief."


That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough.  What worries a small group of GOP Senators and Congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.

They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for Translator.  T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War.  One of those prisoners was John McCain.

The GRU -- Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or Main Intelligence Directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces - operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war.  GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.


The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English.  After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session - in Vietnamese.

These reports had to be translated into Russian.  T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.

John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on October 26, 1967.  Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors.  In July, 1968, his father, US Navy Admiral J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command, commander of all US military forces in the Vietnam theatre.  Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered - according to McCain - to release him. 


McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well.  He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years:  that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.

Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese - and T does not recall any such offer being made.  T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs.  T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.

McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March of 1973.  During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.


According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes.  Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement.  That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives.  That's where they stayed until 1991.  Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap. 

All of what it involved, T doesn't know.  What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.


In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.

Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans.  There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain.  But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims.  There has never been any hard direct evidence.   

What T says the CIA has is such evidence.  Its release would destroy McCain.  The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose.  And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?


Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?

(Back in the 90s years after he retired,  if Cord drank a little too much Scotch, he would laugh derisively at those conspiratorialists who accused Bill Clinton of being connected with the KGB.

"They all darkly point to Bill's participation in anti-war peace conferences in Stockholm and Oslo, and his trip to Leningrad, Moscow, and Prague while he was at Oxford. ‘Who could have paid for this?', they ask. ‘It had to be the KGB!' they claim." Cord would shake his head. "What rot - we paid for it. We recruited Bill the first week he was at Oxford. Bill's been an asset of The Three Bad Words ever since."  Cord passed on in 2001.)

The small group of Senators and Congressmen who have been briefed by T have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap "may have happened."  They are very nervous about pursuing the matter any further.

The Clintons are not nervous.  They are utterly ruthless, and have buddies at Langley all too happy to help them.

It has been noted many times here in To The Point that while most folks think the CIA is a right-wing outfit, it is not. The CIA has been dominated by left-wing hyper-liberals for years.

The CIA is a left-wing, liberal outfit, and its main job for some time now is not attacking America's enemies but conservatives in general and George W. Bush in particular.  The story is best told by friend, Ken Timmerman in his new book Shadow Warriors.


When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media.  Bet on it, just as you can bet they'll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain.  (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one but I'm not going to put it in writing.)

Maybe McCain will try to fight back by confirming Hillary's well-known bisexuality and her lesbian affair with her beautiful assistant, Huma Abedin.  Google "Hillary" and "Huma Abedin" and you'll get almost 6,000 hits.  Turns out Huma is a Moslem who grew up in Saudi Arabia and is strongly suspected of working for Saudi intelligence.

Or maybe he'll capitulate to Clinton blackmail.  You never can tell what a psychologically unstable guy will do.


And that last point is why - be prepared for this, folks - I would not in any circumstances vote for John McCain, not if either Hillary or Obama were the alternative.  Evil is safer than crazy.  Leftie amateur inexperience is safer than crazy.  So I agree with Ann Coulter who says:

"I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility."

How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase whack-job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses "profit" as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes "stopping global warming" is worth destroying the American economy, won't drill ANWR, won't appoint strict constructionist justices, won't protect marriage, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times, and lives in a delusionary world of vanity and rage?

Rush is right.  A McCain presidency will be the destruction of the Republican Party.  It needs to be rebuilt, not wiped out with the field clear for the fascists of the left to consolidate power and eliminate freedom.


And maybe the only way to rebuild it is in dedicated impassioned opposition to a Clinton White House.  That should be the subject of Ann Coulter's next book.  I've already got the title for her.  Her last book was If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.

Ann needs to now write this book:  If Republicans Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.

[A Yogi Berra note.  There still is a chance for Romney, the last remaining hope.  If he can win enough delegates on Super Tuesday next week, combined with Huckabee winning Georgia and other southern states, it may still be possible for McCain to end up with only a plurality of delegates, not a majority, at the end of primary season.  An open convention is still possible, during which Republicans could come to their senses.  It's not over until it's over.]




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KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; democrat; democrats; hillary; issues; jackwheeler; mccain; mccainsoros; rino; russia; temper; vietnam; vvam; wheeler
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To: ThePythonicCow
I disagree that Jack Wheeler is a KOOK

I was present at a lecture Jack Wheeler gave on the world economy a few years ago and was favorably impressed. I think he is OK.

101 posted on 02/03/2008 5:37:37 AM PST by tommix2
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To: dixiechick2000

You are absolutely right. I’m a little young, but I heard a few stories from older shipmates when McCain first got elected to Congress. There was much hate and discontent about that. And I’ve worked with vets groups off and on for years, and there’s a lot of pent up hostility against McCain, just as there was about John Kerry.

People on this forum can put their heads in the sand, but the MSM is just waiting to interview these people and put their stories on the front page. Story after story from sympathetic widows who never found out what happened to their husbands because McCain got the information classified and buried. And the Clintons won’t have to get their hands dirty. The can stay above the fray and let the MSM do their dirty work.


102 posted on 02/03/2008 5:39:10 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I’m not going to vote for McCain in the primary, but I’m not sure the Clinton’s can destroy McCain. If the golden mic big mouth, and FR’s favorite dumb blonde can’t destroy McCain.... I’m not sure it can be done.


103 posted on 02/03/2008 5:40:40 AM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: ThePythonicCow
actually, they can't anymore.

its already out there so it is not news.

any "documents" that purport to prove this charge is true can legitimately be claimed to be forgeries (whether they actually are or not!) given the precendent of the clumsily forged Bush National Guard letters... whoever uses them will suffer Dan Rather's fate.

I've never been a McCain fan, but I do believe that if there were a global crisis he would be cooler (temper tantrums aside) under fire than *any* of the other candidates whereas other candidates could very easily panic through inexperience...

being able to absorb pain builds strength of character... both my Dad and Grandad were POW's who suffered mightily during WWII, so I've seen the effect firsthand.

104 posted on 02/03/2008 5:41:29 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: ThePythonicCow

It won’t take the Clintons. The RNC will kill itself with McCain.


105 posted on 02/03/2008 5:42:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: indylindy

“So save your petty insults for someone else.”

This forum can do better than to pay so much attention to what Larry Flynt says he has up his sleeve. Let’s move away from the sleaze and get into some intersting facts, shall we? That’s what I’m thinking. Let’s not legitimize the hump any more than he has to be. Sorry to rub you the wrong way but that’s what I see and that’s what I’m calling it. For now, anyway.


106 posted on 02/03/2008 5:43:28 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

“Hillary, a grasping, power-addicted misanthrope

I appreciate this kind of verbal accuracy!. Your arrows are staight and your aim like that of William Tell.


107 posted on 02/03/2008 5:50:02 AM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: ThePythonicCow

McCain is perfectly capable of swiftboating himself.


108 posted on 02/03/2008 5:51:27 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: RetiredArmy

“McCain suffered at the hands of the Viet Cong.
Incorrect. McCain was a prisoner in Hanoi.”

To be fair to Dixiechick2000- If I know my history, McCain was pulled out of a lake by people who may have been or were reportedly VC. They broke his shoulder and knifed him in the groin before they had him out of his flight suit.


109 posted on 02/03/2008 5:51:42 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: HAL9000
The Clintons wouldn’t touch this with a ten-foot pole.

They won't be holding the pole.

110 posted on 02/03/2008 5:54:07 AM PST by paltz
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To: chilepepper
Could be ... good point.

In a serious crisis, people who have been through hell and back already have learned ways to deal with it, that the board room types (such as my preferred candidate, Romney ;) might not have.

And that might be one of the big attractions of McCain.

His very voice, raspy and all, speaks of someone who may be a pain in the arse to deal with in the congenial walnut paneled rooms of our August senate, but who in times of crisis might still be standing, still calling shots, when all about him have become one-note basket cases.

And this might be part of the unspoken calculus here. Most of us might list several essential qualifications or positions that we insist on having in our candidate.

But when push comes to shove, there is one or two things, often not the ones even on that list, that are decisive.

In the case of the President, those like me who most worry that it will take a high powered executive type to keep that runaway federal government in check may well trust Romney the most. Those who most worry that it will take someone with brass gonads to get us through the occasional big crisis may well trust McCain the most.

Or ... it might be McCain that goes off the deep end. Some fear that; and I can't prove otherwise.

111 posted on 02/03/2008 5:57:55 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Looks like this article has already revealed what Hillary will reveal. The article saved her the trouble by doing her work.


112 posted on 02/03/2008 5:58:59 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: paltz

“The Clintons wouldn’t touch this with a ten-foot pole.”

and then

“They won’t be holding the pole.”

Let’s just hope they don’t end up holding up the polls in November.


113 posted on 02/03/2008 6:01:48 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator; indylindy
It may be what you see, equaviator, but your style of presenting it seems unnecessarily abrasive to me. Take it easy, ok?
114 posted on 02/03/2008 6:06:05 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

McCain was in the senate in the 90s, so let’s not forget the Clintons have a copy of his FBI file. Probably not Romney’s or Obama’s since they were not on the national radar at the time.


115 posted on 02/03/2008 6:07:18 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Better then that we were the ones pulling the pin on that grenade, than her. She'd have waited for maximum affect just before the election, so people would not have time to forget.

Anyway, in some sense, what you suggest probably isn't so.

I'll wager that 99% of all Americans do not hear about this anytime soon. So far as it might affect much, nothing has happened.

She might still try to pull the pin on this grenade, but perhaps we're exposing this enough now to build up a little bit of an immunity to this, an awareness that will allow more accurate and prompt response.

In any case, this is warfare. Operating in the dark on our side is a sure path to defeat.

116 posted on 02/03/2008 6:12:25 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

UM ...horsemanure.


117 posted on 02/03/2008 6:14:55 AM PST by Walrus (Those who work should eat better than those who do not)
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To: equaviator

I guess we could say this whole article is sleaze.

Question is if there is any truth to it.

If anything like the things mentioned here are true it will be used if McCain gets the nod.

So take it easy, the bad stuff will be happening down the road and it won’t be people here on FR making it well known.


118 posted on 02/03/2008 6:18:08 AM PST by dforest (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: HAL9000

The Clintons never have to touch anything with a ten foot pole. They just get their confederates to leak things to the press.


119 posted on 02/03/2008 6:18:51 AM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I have heard most of this all before and will not accept it as truth without corroboration, especially all the claims made against him regarding VietNam. I DO accept it as possible since we are dealing with a man who was, at the time, a rich little post-teenage spoiled brat along the lines of a Teddy Kennedy. Even if it is true that he is a “hero” from the past, he is NO hero NOW.

Is he nutz? I believe THAT. Is the CIA a leftist infested swamp? I believe that as well. It is nothing more than just another fed agency that has been eaten by the activists over the past 30 years. Do the Clintons have something on McCain? Possibly. Will they use it? Most definately.

What we have, with a McCain nomination and either of the other two demonRAT candidates, is the possibility that the AMerican people, more than usually, are the BIGGEST LOSERS.

My biggest complaint over the past several election seasons has been that the people have forgotten what it means to be a self-governing nation. We have gone about our business, working and taking care of our responsibilities all the while forgetting that our biggest responsibility is in running our country. The Constitution makes it plain that WE are the biggest losers if we abrogate this charge. This campaign season is the result of all those claims- “Im too busy”, “I hate politics”,blah blah blah...Every time I see those talk shows where the “man-on-the-street” cannot identify even the president, vice president or any of the leading demonRATs that are busy his freedoms, my heart breaks. It isn’t funny.

It’s too late now. The election is around the corner and we are stuck with what we have. We conservatives are hearing how “irrelevant” we are, how the “moderates” are the NEW Republican Party. Even the enemy on the left re-writes history to claim the last good man we had- Reagan- and no one speaks up.

What do we do now?

We have 4 years. I intend to get as deeply involved in my state party as I can. I intend to kick ass and take names. I want to KNOW who the best conservatives are and I will push for them. I’m going to take a few minutes every week and cruise the internet and find out which candidates, what state, and what they stand for and see what their plans are. I’m going to continue to watch the news and when a foreign policy issue comes up, I WILL take a few minutes and find out WHAT this will mean for us all. If just a minority of us did this, the rest COULD be better informed.

Aren’t we sick of the media choosing our candidates for us? Is there a single person who actually believes these people, these hacks for the left, mean us anything but defeat and harm? Can’t we take a little time to assure that this country exists for our kids and grandkids?

Please don’t be a “moderate” which means nothing more than that you don’t know the issues or are unsure of what you believe. Take a stand you can believe in and take the little time it takes to fight for it. Our soldiers are doing that very thing. The least we can do is make them as proud of US as we are of THEM.


120 posted on 02/03/2008 6:22:24 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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