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To: nicmarlo; Mr Apple

The fairy tale that the Mass. Supreme Court did not institute gay marriage should be a clear sign that this group is not to be trusted with the truth.

We have discussed this many times, and it always ends the same. Someone posts the actual text of the ruling proving they created same-sex marriage, and the people arguing otherwise slink away until they can make the same baseless claims in another thread.

Unfortunately, I don’t have time tonight to do the dance. So to those reading this thread, just do yourself a favor. GO back and read the actual NEWS REPORTS from whe the court ruled. You will see that EVERYBODY knew they had just instituted gay marriage, and that the only an action of the legislature could STOP it.


428 posted on 02/02/2008 5:19:39 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Mr Apple

You are telling the fairy tales, CharlesWayne.

http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/05/the-romney-deception-boiled-down/

They reported that while campaigning for governor in 2002, Romney secretly promised to the Log Cabin homosexual Republicans that when the anticipated ruling came forth from the court, that he would abdicate his constitutional duty to defend the Constitution.

And that’s exactly what he did when the Goodridge decision came forth and supposedly legalized gay marriage. The Goodridge decision didn’t even claim to legalize it. It simply declared that it was unconstitutional not to let homosexuals marry.

Now there are so many problems in treating this as law. The Massachusetts says the people are not controllable by any laws not ratified by their elected representatives in the Legislature. So bang, that means right there that the Goodridge decision is not law and nobody can treat it as law.

It says also (that) the power of suspending the laws shall be exercised only by the Legislature. Well the statutes, the marriage statutes, even Goodridge, the court opinion that everyone says “legalized gay marriage,” even that opinion says that the statute doesn’t allow gay marriage. And the attorney for the homosexual plaintiffs came out of the courtroom after that ruling and said, “The only thing that remains now for gay marriage to happen is for the Legislature to change the law.”

Well that never happened. The law in Massachusetts, the statutes, ratified by the people’s elected representatives in the Legislature, still did not allow gay marriage.

Well, what happened was Romney hired constitutional law professors and lawyers, Jay Sekulow and Mary Ann Glendon at Harvard (and some of this has never been reported, what’s happened), and they lined up and said he had no choice.

Now I happen to know some of these people like Mary Ann Glendon, a retired Massachusetts Supreme Court Justice, told him privately, told Romney privately, (that) he should ignore Goodridge, said it was not binding, it had no impact unless the Legislature changed the law.

But Romney had made promises to the Log Cabin Republicans.


431 posted on 02/02/2008 5:22:28 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: CharlesWayneCT

People should also read how he was roasted in the media for using some 100 year old law to keep homosexuals from coming to MA to marry.


440 posted on 02/02/2008 5:25:39 PM PST by icwhatudo (The National Right To Life founder endorsed Romney-So did the GOP's Pro-life "plank" writer.)
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