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To: Bubba_Leroy; Gondring
Absrud nonsense. Do the Party Uber Alles types really believe that electing a guy who agreed more with Ted Kenndy and John Kerry then with George Bush would be good for Conservatives? The author here contends that because Bush is too far to the Left we must grit our teeth and accept McCain who is even father to the political Left!

Hi arguement is total nonsense.

Conservatives absolutely must stop McCain even if it means enduring a Clinton 2 Administration. At least with a Leftist Administration the GOP Establishment would finally realize they must actually advance our agenda rather then be Democrat Lite if they want our votes. Right now the GOP Establishement holds Conservatives in contempt. They think "We can do anything we want and the sheep will show up and vote for us". At some point, Conservative are either going to have to make a stand or quit being Conservatives. The time is now. The way to stop it is to make sure McCain is never elected Presdient.

This is what the Party Uber Alles types have got to learn. At some point Conservatives are going to make a stand. Going to have to teach the Republican Establishment that there are lines they cannot cross. Politically Hillary and McCain are virtually the same. They may have minor difference on this issue or that but ideologically they have the same centralizing big Govt mindset.

In 2000 Conservatives were so desperate to control the Congress and the Presidency we grit our teeth and accepted Bush had to move Left. So since we were still getting about 70% of what we wanted we made peace with it.

Now, with McCain, the GOP Establishment are telling us "Hey if we want to win we got to more 35% father Left". If Conservatives accept that, then in 2010, they will tell us "Hey we got to move 15% father Left to win" and the same in 2012-2014 etc etc etc forever.

The Party Uber Alles types have got to be taught a lesson. The lesson is that we actually want our political agenda advanced. We are not willing to become Democrat Lite just to keep them in office. The time for that stand is now. The person who best represents this leftward drift in the GOP is McCain. He must be defeated either in the primary or in the General Election.

22 posted on 02/02/2008 7:40:53 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: MNJohnnie; Bubba_Leroy; Gondring; rlmorel
Do the Party Uber Alles types really believe that electing a guy who agreed more with Ted Kenndy and John Kerry then with George Bush would be good for Conservatives? The author here contends that because Bush is too far to the Left we must grit our teeth and accept McCain who is even father to the political Left!

rl? Comments please?

96 posted on 02/02/2008 8:25:58 AM PST by null and void (Conservatism. It's the new Black...)
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