Posted on 02/02/2008 1:52:27 AM PST by Fred Nerks
New evidence supports premise that Earth produces endless supply
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A study published in Science Magazine today presents new evidence supporting the abiotic theory for the origin of oil, which asserts oil is a natural product the Earth generates constantly rather than a "fossil fuel" derived from decaying ancient forests and dead dinosaurs.
The lead scientist on the study – Giora Proskurowski of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle – says the hydrogen-rich fluids venting at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean in the Lost City Hydrothermal Field were produced by the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in the mantle of the earth.
The abiotic theory of the origin of oil directly challenges the conventional scientific theory that hydrocarbons are organic in nature, created by the deterioration of biological material deposited millions of years ago in sedimentary rock and converted to hydrocarbons under intense heat and pressure.
While organic theorists have posited that the material required to produce hydrocarbons in sedimentary rock came from dinosaurs and ancient forests, more recent argument have suggested living organisms as small as plankton may have been the origin...
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The Liberals took over the skool system in 1978 with the creation of the Department of (mis)Education. It's been a downhill slide ever since.....quite apparent if you look at the test scores year to year, compared to other industrialized nations. Dramatic slide, despite the gubmint's best efforts to make the tests easier and to teach the test to the "students"....
There's a book out called The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt. It's a real eye opener. This book documents the slide in the American education system over decades and backs up the theory with lots of gubmint documents released through the FOIA.
I think this is the answer to your question of "what happened".....I know in my own area it explains why I run into so many young adults that have graduated high school, but are functionally illiterate....
There is another separate theory that says that all of the bio matter that could of gone into the "manufacturing" of oil is 100's of times the ability of the Earth to have supported on the surface and therefore the bio source of oil would appear to be not enough to have supplied and produced the oil that has already been used.
despair.com has a poster that says: "Meetings, none of us are as dumb as all of us." Sad but true.
as an agriculturalist operating a tropical fruit tree plantation...I think I can tell you what happens to all the fallen leaves. They fall, they rot and turn into fertilizer!
What fascinates me now is the inclusion of sulphur in oil shale...and coal. Where did the sulphur originate? Isn't the most expensive part of refining crude due to the removal of sulphur, and isn't sulphur a contributing danger in coal mining?
What might be the connection? (You tell me that and I'll stick to growing papayas and mangoes, LOL!)
“I thought I read about old wells being found to have “refilled””
I read the same thing a couple of years ago! This would explain how it happens.
“I thought I read about old wells being found to have “refilled””
I read the same thing a couple of years ago. This would explain how it happens.
Leave the corn for food.
we do have that very same problem in Australia. Young people who cannot express themselves verbally or in writing, with very limited vocabulary...the sad fact is, their teachers are no better.
There was a small experiment conducted in Queensland recently; a group of teenagers were asked to sit an exam that was given to young people of their age - in 1890.
They ALL FAILED.
>>How many leaves fall each year. How many in 100 years? How many in a million? or 40 million?
What fascinates me now is the inclusion of sulphur in oil shale...and coal. Where did the sulphur originate? Isn’t the most expensive part of refining crude due to the removal of sulphur, and isn’t sulphur a contributing danger in coal mining?
What might be the connection? (You tell me that and I’ll stick to growing papayas and mangoes, LOL!)<<
You are right about the leaves - they don’t usually get buried deep enough or fast enough to decay without oxygen and turn into black carbon. In my defense, I’ve been up for three hours and my beloved wife has not yet brought me coffee.
But... black shale is usually found in Paleozoic or Mesozoic strata i.e. from 540 million years ago (mya) to 65 million years ago. So with almost half a billion years to work with its not hard to see how quite a bit of plant matter could have accumulated and sometimes been buried to fast to decay normally.
Sulfur. Except for the part where sulfur compounds tend to stink and make acid rain ,sulfur is actually kind of cool. Its in the same column of the periodic table as oxygen and there is a sulfur cycle like there is an oxygen cycle.
I don’t know much about biology but I’ve read sulfur is important in proteins and vitamins. Bacteria collect the sulfur and plants and animals absorb it. when its burned it goes up as sulfur dioxide and then back down as acid rain and it starts all over. Maybe somebody will wander into the thread who can tell us more.
Interesting comment. So, what happened 20 years ago that brought about this situation?
no need to apologize, I enjoyed and appreciated your response. It's almost midnight here, enjoy your coffee, I'm heading off for some shut-eye.
Best to you. Good night.
Even if abiotic oil were the real deal, it would only be relevant if the rate of abiotic production was greater than the current rate of consumption
re: refilling: yes I can see this happening as oil that was in pockets deeper than the drilling level slowly seeps upward. Oil is lighter than rock, so any pockets will tend to get compressed by the rock above it, and seep up by any available channel
Yes, that doesn't surprise me in the least. I see it just in the difference between what I was taught and what my wife, 10 years younger, was taught in publik skool. Apparently, a lot changed in those 10 years, particularly in what was being taught in terms of history and mathematics.
Folks with little or no knowledge of history and no ability to problem solve using logic and reason, much less critical thinking, are much easier to control.....
It's a byproduct of the government grant system, which has been financing most university research since WW2. If you want to be a professor, you need to be able to finance yourself by bringing in research grants. If you want research grants, your results must not be upsetting to the people who gave you your money
There are enough believers, that PC will eventually be overcome by common sense. Just now the noisy, vocal, minority who thinks they have us surrounded is just feeling their oats.
My wife has fond memories of down under. One of her more adventurous trips. I choose not to go because as a retired professional pilot, I knew how long it took to get there.
Some might say, who cares how long it takes to find paradise, but speaking of the USSR, your governments actions against gun owners a few years back, reminded us of the same thing.
if the "peak oil" guys don't do it, Al Gore will. If Al Gore doesn't, OPEC will. How can you charge $100 a barrel if there is an inexhaustable supply?
oil-is-not-rotting-dinosaurs-theory ping
the reason oil is $100 a barrel is based on a scam, fabricated scarcity.
You are aware that we import more oil from Mexico, Venezuela, and Canada then we do from Saudi? May I say in closing, we are not going to get off black heroin any time soon, unless we stop driving.
Then again, you may have the same desire I have, which is to divorce ourselves from the ties with oil from the middle east, when we have the knowledge, experience, and the means to exploit our own sources of crude.
As the per barrel price continues to rise this may become a reality. Price does play a roll in the economic picture. Why not buy the cheapest available oil while husbanding the more expensive resources in our own country.
Yes, I know why, but I’m not the president of one of the major oil companies, and if I was, I would probably be doing what thay are doing.
For example: Generation of Methane Via High Pressure Carbonate Reduction
Essentially, if you have water and carbonates under conditions of extremely high pressure and temperatures ( like in the earth's mantle), you get methane
You have a point, considering the only recent development of the Mexican, Leaf-Blower Brigades!
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