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To: Kurt Evans

You are a one issue voter.
Mitt Romney has switched his attitudes on abortion.

As I said Before Ronald Reagan was a Democrat in the 1950’s and was the president of the Screen Actors Guild. Ronald Reagan supported FDR. If you think Romney is getting out your badly mistaken!


25 posted on 02/02/2008 12:19:29 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

“Tallyhoe” wrote: “You are a one issue voter.”

And the issue is integrity.

“Tallyhoe” wrote: “Mitt Romney has switched his attitudes on abortion.”

No, he’s pretended to switch them. Then he stopped pretending he’d switched them. Now he’s pretending he’s switched them again.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBRjSe8WvfQ
http://www.observer.com/2007/mitt-romneys-convenient-truths

But wait. There’s more.

May 2005: Governor Romney reaffirmed that he was “absolutely committed” to support the pro-choice position: “I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice, and so far I’ve been able to successfully do that, and my personal philosophical views about this issue is not something that I think would do anything other than distract from what I think is a more critical agenda ...”

June 2006: Governor Romney said on the Charlie Rose Show that he’d converted to the pro-life position in November 2004 after meeting with Harvard scientists on stem-cell research: “I sat down with a researcher, and he said, ‘Look, you don’t have to think about this stem-cell research as a moral issue, because we kill the embryos after 14 days.’ That struck me as he said that.”

December 2006: The Harvard University researcher with whom Romney met, Douglas Melton, disputed Romney’s recollection of their meeting in the governor’s statehouse office: “Governor Romney has mischaracterized my position. We didn’t discuss killing or anything related to it.”

http://boston.com/news/local/politics/candidates/articles/2006/12/17/romneys_journey_to_the_right/

“Tallyhoe” wrote: “If you think Romney is getting out your badly mistaken!”

I didn’t say he was getting out. I said he’s dead, and he knows it, and he’s plotting his exit strategy. Whether he implements that strategy or stays in through the convention, time will tell.


31 posted on 02/02/2008 1:11:39 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: tallyhoe

Ronald Reagan also changed his stance on abortion.

I want Mitt to stay in...

Why should the media and indys and moderates (who say they will vote Obama...anyway) determine the GOP candidate?
We do not need a WASHINGTON beholdin’ insider...


47 posted on 02/02/2008 7:27:08 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: tallyhoe; Kurt Evans
Mitt Romney has switched his attitudes on abortion.

(He sure has...and he hasn't known when to stop switching!)

Let's have a "mock" "interview" of Mitt, shall we? --using his own actual words as the substantive part of his "responses" (his actual words are underlined):

Q Mr. Romney, Mr Tallyhoe has said that you switched your attitude on abortion. True?

A "Yes. While I never said I was pro-choice... my position was effectively pro-choice." [Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007]

Q So since you're not "effectively pro-choice" anymore, you've changed. But what do you mean, "I never said I was pro-choice?" According to the records, didn't you say in 1994 that Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's?" [Source: Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney's Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05] Didn't you follow that up 11 years later on May 27, 2005 after your pro-life "conversion" by saying "I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice?" Isn't "free to choose" and "promise to maintain...choice" the same thing as "pro-choice?" (Or are you just parsing words?) Didn't you also make multiple 'pro-choice' promises in 2002?"

A "I've made it quite clear since at least the Summer of 2001 that I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." [Source: Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01]

Q "If you didn't want to be labeled as 'pro-choice' as of 2001, then why 'promise to maintain...choice' multiple times in both 2002 & 2005? (I guess I'm a bit befuddled here)"

A "Listen, I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." [Source: Mitt Romney, interview with Fox Chris Wallace, Aug. 12, 2007]

Q "...But excuse me, sir, just because you in your internal conversations haven't labeled yourself 'pro-choice' doesn't mean that you haven't spent a dozen-year period between 1994 and 2005 spouting 'pro-choice' expressions. Isn't that so?

A "Listen, I am firmly pro-life… I was always for life." [Source: Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007]

Q "But we started out this interview where you were totally coming clean on your past years and you said your 'position was effectively pro-choice.' What was your record as governor of Massachusetts, then?"

A "I've been quite forthright on my positions ever since I took the campaign trail in South Carolina in January of 2007. I'll repeat what I said then: 'Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice.'" [Source: Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07]

Q "So we have established, then, that you were indeed 'pro-choice' over the last multiple years..."

A "...But you didn't let me finish. Eleven days after I made that statement, I also told South Carolina's citizens that 'I am firmly pro-life… I was always for life.'" [Source: Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007]

Q "OK, I'm getting rather confused again. How can you be 'pro-choice'...over the last multiple years and yet 'always [be] for life?'"

A "Well, that's because of my track record as governor. You see 'As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life.'"

Q "But why did you then tell me that 'Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice?'"

A "Well, some people interpret it that way because of $50 Commonwealth Care abortions and a Planned Parenthood League representative who in now permanently attached to that process."

Q "But you've told me that 'every action' you took 'as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life' you 'stood on the side of life?'"

A "Uh, excuse me, but my press secretary just handed me a copy of my Katie Couric interview on embryonic stem cell research, and I want to review it...feel free to watch":

COURIC INTERVIEW: "...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos..." [Dec. 5, 2007 interview with CBS' Katie Couric]

Q "Wow, Mitt, that's great. I don't think I've ever heard a POTUS candidate ever talk about adopting frozen surplus embryos before. That's great!"

A "Shh. (You'll miss my next sentence)"

COURIC INTERVIEW: "But if a PARENT decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law." [Dec. 5, 2007 interview with CBS' Katie Couric]

Q "So 'pro-choice' parents--and you admit they are 'parents' of adoptable embryos--if they 'decide' to 'donate' a young one for purposes of dissection...that's 'acceptable?'[More head shaking] And this was the very issue that 'converted' you to the "I was always for life" 'new' position, eh?"

51 posted on 02/02/2008 8:42:59 AM PST by Colofornian
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