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Disabled Children Better Off Aborted: House of Lords Peeress
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/1/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 02/01/2008 5:27:18 PM PST by wagglebee

LONDON, February 1, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Seriously disabled children should be considered non-persons and would be better off having been aborted, according to a Peer speaking in the House of Lords Tuesday. Attempting to couch her assertion in terms of children's "rights", Molly Baroness Meacher told the Lords that children born with severe disabilities are "not viable people".

The comments came as the Lords debated an amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, put forward by Lady Swinton, Baroness Masham of Ilton, that would have protected unborn disabled children from abortion after the 24 week gestational time limit. The amendment was defeated by 89 votes to 22.

Under Britain's abortion law, children judged to have some form of disability, including such comparatively minor disabilities as club foot or cleft palate, can be aborted up to the time of natural birth.

Referring to two children she knows who were born prematurely with severe cerebral palsy, Baroness Meacher said, "They were natural births. Those two children cannot breathe naturally; they have to be helped to breathe. They will never talk. They lie on their backs and can do nothing."

"My belief is that there are children, born at those very early ages, who are not viable people. It would be in their best interests to have been aborted."

She said, "I want to speak about the rights of the child. The Mental Capacity Act refers to the child having capacity; if they do not have capacity, it is important for the professionals to consider their best interests."

"There rests my case. We need to consider the best interests of these babies."

John Smeaton, national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children, wrote that Baroness Meacher's comments support what SPUC has said about recent British legislation, that it creates a mandate to kill the disabled and vulnerable. SPUC has pointed out regarding the Mental Capacity Act, "that [the term] 'best interests' in that legislation can be defined in such a way that mentally incapacitated patients may now be killed in their 'best interests'"

"Baroness Meacher," Smeaton said, "clearly considers that her own capacity and achievements in life put her right to life in a different category from the right to life owed to people with cerebral palsy - that she is 'viable person' but 'they' are not 'viable people'."

Others in the Lords, however, do not share Baroness Meacher's extreme form of eugenic thinking. Robert Shirley, Lord Ferrers, said he was "apprehensive" about abortion at early stages "because you are destroying some form of life", and "deeply apprehensive" about abortion in later stages, since it is "difficult to tell...when [the child] becomes a human being with a soul."

Lord Ferrers said he hoped the amendment would pass, "because I do not think it right that human beings should decide at one moment that this child, who is a human being, should not be born."

Baroness Tonge, a leading supporter of the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, said that the children referred to were not "disabled human beings" but "grossly abnormal human beings". Citing the "grotesque appearance" of children with anencephaly, Tonge said, "many of those whom I have seen bear little resemblance to human beings."

But Baroness Williams of Crosby said the permission to kill the disabled before birth is at odds with the nation's efforts to help disabled people throughout their lives. "We have a society where once people are born we increasingly go to extraordinary lengths to look after them if they are disabled."

"One of the things that really frightens me is that, if we pick out the potentially disabled at the age of 25 or 26 weeks, we will sooner or later develop an attitude towards the severely disabled who have been disabled since birth," she said.

Contact:

Molly Baroness Meacher
The House of Lords,
London, SW1A 0PW
U.K.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; dutytodie; lifehate; moralabsolutes; prolife; sick; socializedmedicine; uk; utilitarianism
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To: luckystarmom

The world needs more people like you and your husband.


21 posted on 02/01/2008 5:43:36 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: wagglebee

Who died and made her God???


22 posted on 02/01/2008 5:43:48 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Mrs. Don-o; All

23 posted on 02/01/2008 5:44:14 PM PST by potlatch ("Kindness is more important than wisdom, the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom" - Rubin)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent.


24 posted on 02/01/2008 5:44:57 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: wagglebee
Well.......
According to her "reasoning" Charles Steinmetz would have been aborted.
He was a dwarf as well as a hunchback and had hip dysplasia. He would be considered "not viable".

He was an electrical genius. He was at least as influential in the development of AC current as was Tesla.

I wouldn't want to be in her shoes come judgement day.

25 posted on 02/01/2008 5:45:30 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

She has a husband???


27 posted on 02/01/2008 5:48:11 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: wagglebee
This was a core belief of Nazi Germany.
The Holocaust Museum illustrates this very well.
28 posted on 02/01/2008 5:50:05 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh I am sorry, I thought you were talking about the woman listed in the article. :-P


29 posted on 02/01/2008 5:50:13 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: luckystarmom

You treated her normally....she responded as normally as she could. I wonder if she would have had the same results if she had been treated as handicapped and not challenged.


30 posted on 02/01/2008 5:51:23 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: wagglebee

We have people with similar thoughts running for President;

Obama has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood. Read the following from CNS news:

“Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.

He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede — as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor — that these babies, fully outside their mothers’ wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact “persons.”

Is everyone still willing to stay at home on Nov. 4th????


31 posted on 02/01/2008 5:54:01 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (this)
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To: Fiddlstix

George Gordon (Lord Byron) and Sir Walter Scott both were born with club feet and they were arguably two of the greatest English writers of all time.

Troy Aikman, Mia Hamm and Kristi Yamaguchi all were born with club feet and were among the greatest athletes ever in their sports.

And finally, Josef Goebbels had a club foot, but I’m sure this evil bitch would have opposed killing one of her fellow monsters.


32 posted on 02/01/2008 5:56:03 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Hitler lives... and he’s wearing a dress


33 posted on 02/01/2008 5:58:21 PM PST by Lexington Green (More and more, it looks like America lost the Cold War.)
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To: potlatch

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Bump -


35 posted on 02/01/2008 6:01:44 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: wagglebee

Outrageous.


36 posted on 02/01/2008 6:05:50 PM PST by John Robie
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The abortion of the disabled doesn’t call their humanity into question, but our own.

Amen!

37 posted on 02/01/2008 6:06:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I think that liberal minds are disabled as well.


38 posted on 02/01/2008 6:14:49 PM PST by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: wagglebee
Seriously disabled children should be considered non-persons and would be better off having been aborted

The NAZIs' notion of "utility" lives on. Bring on the death camps.

39 posted on 02/01/2008 6:16:36 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Useless Eaters” - a multimedia presentation from Regent University:

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schedu/uselesseaters/


40 posted on 02/01/2008 6:22:57 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie
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