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The guy from Ireland was on 970 wfla this morning. He’s a former member who said it’s just a moneymaking scheme and the celebs are treated like gold to promote it. Will Smith is involved w/them now.


302 posted on 02/19/2008 8:59:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
We have seen how from Hitler's NAZI propaganda, they told us how it was our duty to die and not be a burden on society if we weren't perfect. Now we see how Canada and Australia strive to join their wonderful socialized medicine with the machines of death in an inexorable combination to trim the population of pesky humans.

First is this about Sam Golubchuk and his fate we chronicle here. The second follows below about what can go wrong in South Africa.

Do we really want socialized medicine in any form?

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Anyone who considers Canada’s health system a role model for the U.S. should consider the case of Samuel Golubchuk. His case shows the inevitable collision course between government-controlled health care and the rights of private conscience.

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Here is the ethical conflict. The doctor believes that he cannot “ethically participate in the administration of this treatment any longer.” He thinks the machines only prolong Golubchuk’s suffering. So he wants to unplug them. British common law, the foundation of Canadian law, requires a physician to provide care only as long as he thinks it benefits the patient. The Golubchuks believe it would be intrinsically evil to unplug the machines.

The conflict takes on an ever larger dimension because it’s set in Canada. There, the government controls what happens in the health care system, not individuals and families. If your values place you in opposition to the government’s values ... well, tough.

Because of the government’s overriding control over health care, this is potentially every Canadian family’s story. And if the U.S. adopts a government-controlled health care system, it is potentially every American family’s story as well......................................

Moral costs of socializedmedicine

8mm


303 posted on 02/20/2008 2:37:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife; amdgmary; BykrBayb; bjs1779; floriduh voter; Tajitaw
How could anyone make this up? Thanks, Les, for the tip.

Review of the entire blog is worth the effort. We have heard strident defenses over the last couple years of the compassion and expense associated with Futile Care, especially that creation of our current President in Texas, the Texas Futile Care Law. As we noticed in practice, it is not the care that is futile, but the lives of the recipients, in the eyes of the little gods. Well, here is some contrast.

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Ashlee Callie, a popular South African actress, was involved in a head-on automobile collision on Friday night, Feb. 8. She had weekend surgery for head injuries, and was in ICU and Recovery at Johannesburg General Hospital. Today, ONC Today is reporting that the hospital switched off Callie's life support machines resulting in her death on February 15th: "Apparently, allegedly, it is the hospital’s 'unofficial' policy that not one patient can stay in ICU for more than a week. One of the reasons given is that the hospital receives too many emergency patients who needs the ICU life support machines, almost on a daily basis. And the cost of running those machines are high."

"So if one patient stays for too long in ICU, and by the end of a week period there are no signs of them recovering, the machines are switched off."

"New Futility Case -- Ashley Callie"

8mm

304 posted on 02/20/2008 2:37:34 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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