[Senator Goldwater]

What will it take to convince some of you Rudy lovers that your Rudy is a loser.

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Certainly not a walk around New York, because Rudy cleaned up New York.

What the anti-Giuliani crowd on this board refuses to acknowledge is that Rudy was an effective leader under some of the worst circumstances an executive could have, and beat the Democrats soundly with his vision on crime, taxes, and leadership.

He’d make a great VP now, and a great president in 2012.

[tear gas]

Rudy's base turned out to be composed of perverts and degenerate elitists - "guys" like Bill Paxon, Steve Forbes and Ted Olson. He also had a lot of closet cases and secret admirers like Hannity and Limpbaugh. This bunch called Rudy inevitable and tried to cram him down the throats of decent Americans.

But the public didn't buy any of it. Rudy's a loser and is unfit to be Commander in Chief.