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To: ansel12

He seems to have wanted the Mormon women to be ‘adamantly pro-life’ even until death, while he sold ‘pro-choice’ to the rest of us.

He is now pro-life. You seem to want to punish him for that. Deborah Roe, of Roe vs. Wade fame, was obviously for abortion. She is now adamantly against abortion. You would have preferred she stay pro-choice? You win someone over to your side and then you proceed to villify that person for not acting fast enough to suit you? Romney was always personally pro-life as evidenced by his 5 sons and his 11 grandchildren. In his public life as Governor of an extremely liberal state that would brook no other way, he went along with the law as it was. However, at every opportunity he could, he came down on the side of pro-life in his decisions in office. Now, you can continue to bury the hatchet in the man’s back for no good reason, but it is small of you to do so. Geez, no one is going to want to switch to the pro-life side with moral purists like you around ready to greet them with “hello, baby killer, what took you so long.” Lots of converts to be had with that attitude.


779 posted on 02/01/2008 12:56:54 AM PST by flaglady47 (The only one that stands between McQueeg and the Presidency is Romney)
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To: flaglady47; ansel12
He is now pro-life. You seem to want to punish him for that. Deborah Roe, of Roe vs. Wade fame, was obviously for abortion. She is now adamantly against abortion. You would have preferred she stay pro-choice? You win someone over to your side and then you proceed to villify that person for not acting fast enough to suit you?

"Deborah Roe?" (you mean Norma McCorvey!)

So, let's say McCorvey has been "pro-life" for 6 months, and then publicly says: "I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice." [Romney quote from 6 & 1/2 half months post "conversion"].

So if Norma says something like that, your ears wouldn't perk up?

What about if Norma does a number of pro-life things; a few things not so pro-life...but then is solidly in our "camp"...even touring the country, proclaiming how "pro-life" she is.

And then your ears perk up even more as she states the following:

"I was always for life” [Romney statement in South Carolina, Feb. 8, 2007]

"I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." [Romney statement to Chris Wallace of Fox News, Aug. 12, 2007]

So, flaglady, would that make Norma McCorvey, according to your analogy, a life-long pro-lifer? "always pro-life?" "wasn't pro-choice?"

Romney was always personally pro-life as evidenced by his 5 sons and his 11 grandchildren...

(Yeah, we all know that abortionists never have any kids; nor do abortion lobbyists; nor do pro-abortion legislators)

Historically, just 'cause a slave owner released some of his slaves didn't make him "anti-slavery" (if we was keeping others on the plantation).

...moral purists like you...

Well, I'll let Mr. Moral Purist himself, Mr. Ansel, answer for himself as to how pure he is. But just based upon 5-6 distinct statements Romney made in 2007, I would say he doesn't hold that there's much of a distinctive between a pro-life and "pro-choice" position. (So it's "purity" to expect someone to actually to be able to distinguish some clarity that those two positions aren't roughly the same?)

783 posted on 02/01/2008 1:31:02 AM PST by Colofornian
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