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Romney does flip-flop and forces Catholic hospitals to distribute morning-after-pill [2005]
Lifesite News ^ | December 9, 2005 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 01/31/2008 11:37:43 AM PST by AFA-Michigan

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To: cinives

“You didn’t answer the question - whether he vetoed or not, the law was going into effect.”

Ahh so if he is president and he faces a measure that will force him to do something evil but his veto will be overridden he will cower like a dog and pass it without a whisper putting *his good name* on the legislation but later on deny it...

“What you are advocating is a chief executive who either disobeys the law”

No just looking for one with the stones to fight the battles that have to be fought even if you’re going to lose (veto). The lack of veto plus his pro-choice history give no doubt willard is neither pro-life nor fit to fight the left.

“So in your view, the only ethical thing is for pro-life advocates to skip getting elected and work outside of the system.”

Or veto pro-choice legislation, if he wont do it as the governor of MA he wont do it as president of the US..


221 posted on 02/01/2008 7:29:25 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3
Its called a veto.

Please see post 125. There was a veto proof majority.

222 posted on 02/01/2008 9:04:05 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Petronski
I haven't twisted any facts

Ah, so you admit you are just ignorant. Got it.

223 posted on 02/01/2008 9:06:25 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: AFA-Michigan
The entire article is ABOUT Romney “making the call.”

The only thing Romney could have done was to veto the bill. See post 135. The bill was veto proof.

224 posted on 02/01/2008 9:15:08 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: AFA-Michigan
I mean, specifically, that on Wednesday of that week, Romney publicly said that Catholic hospitals were exempt from the new law, based on a preexisting “conscientious objector” law in Mass. His own Dept of Health issued the same legal finding based on the previous law.

The article does not state the Catholic hospitals were exempt from the law. The only thing mentioned is that the Dept of Health said they could dissent. That's not exemption.

225 posted on 02/01/2008 9:17:53 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Ah, so you admit you are just ignorant.

Of course not. It's amazing to see that the Prime Directive of the Romney Sleaze Machine is still operative. After driving Willard's negatives through the roof, one would think you people would try a different tack. Nope.

226 posted on 02/01/2008 9:30:44 AM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: MEGoody

Which, to my mind says, Mitt wont fight for a judge if there is a ‘gang of 14’ in the way... Thats not leadership...


227 posted on 02/01/2008 9:50:12 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3
Which, to my mind says, Mitt wont fight for a judge if there is a ‘gang of 14’ in the way... Thats not leadership.

So tell me, specifically. What is a governor to do when there is a veto proof majority?

228 posted on 02/01/2008 10:34:03 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Petronski
Of course not.

Of course you are. You cannot tell the difference between an opinion about a subjective word and a lie. That's ignorance.

229 posted on 02/01/2008 10:34:47 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

1) Veto it anyway
2) To whatever extent the law allows interfere with its execution

If Mitt had been pro-life for years he might have some slack to say ‘they made me do it’ but the decades of supporting baby killing along with a last minute (and a few months before running for president) conversion to the pro-life cause is not convincing.

I think Mitt saw what was happening to Rudy who was already in the race and was being savaged for being pro-choice and decided he could take the advantage by changing his position son Abortion, Guns, Taxes, ...


230 posted on 02/01/2008 10:37:25 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: MEGoody

Keep rolling with the personal attacks. You’re speaking volumes about Willard Romney with every post.


231 posted on 02/01/2008 10:41:01 AM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: Petronski

LOL Like anyone who knows the difference between an opinion on a subjective word and a lie would put any stock whatsoever in what you have to say.


232 posted on 02/01/2008 12:08:38 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: N3WBI3
Veto it anyway

Brilliant move for a panderer, but otherwise a waste of time.

To whatever extent the law allows interfere with its execution

To what extent does the law allow that in Massachusetts?

233 posted on 02/01/2008 12:10:24 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

It seems to be a concern of yours, since you feel the need to post trying to pooh-pooh the idea.

Again though, I note you engage in personal attack (RSM Prime Directive).


234 posted on 02/01/2008 12:22:51 PM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: Petronski
Again though, I note you engage in personal attack

Since our entire exchange began because you launched a personal attack on Romney, you obviously think personal attacks are perfectly acceptable. ;)

235 posted on 02/01/2008 12:24:36 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
I did not engage in a personal attack on Romney. However, you should note that criticism of politicians is permitted here....it's the whole reason the place exists. On the other hand, attacks of fellow posters are not permitted, and are by the way a failure, an ad hominem attack.

That's the way the RSM works. And hit has failed brilliantly.

236 posted on 02/01/2008 12:31:16 PM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: Petronski
I did not engage in a personal attack on Romney.

So calling someone a liar because you disagree with their subjective opinion is not a personal attack?

Okay. . .you're a liar. ;)

237 posted on 02/01/2008 1:42:20 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

OMG! You think you proved something.

LOL

Let me say it again: criticism of political figures is expected. Personal attacks on fellow posters are forbidden AND proof of failure.

By all means, though, please continue. I love what you’re proving about the Romney Sleaze Machine.


238 posted on 02/01/2008 1:44:37 PM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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OMG! You think you proved something.

LOL I didn't have to prove you are a liar. You already have. ;)

239 posted on 02/01/2008 1:53:24 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Ah, more personal attacks. Please, continue posting so that all might know the nature of the Romney Sleaze Machine.


240 posted on 02/01/2008 1:55:32 PM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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