Posted on 01/31/2008 6:45:24 AM PST by blam
GGG Ping.
No beer stains?............
For me, I guess it was somewhere around 1952 or 3 when I first started to think.
This is news ?
/8^)
"Can you dig it?"
LOL. Wood from old US breweries, cypress for the most part, is quite valued, both for the look and properties.
And back then, I'm sure recycling was more economically viable by necessity...
But, as the article states, it's not like knocking a few decades off the "founding" of Berlin is really going to put them in the "old boys club" of cities.
Maybe this “old cellar” was a rathskeller!?..........
And it did turn out to be quite an interesting place to start a city.
Of course, it's lacking the panache of a "Romulus and Remus" myth, but still...
Super! Now my 750 Jahre Gerz Berlin comemerative beer stein has become an antique?
"Can you dig it?"
I call BS.
No possible way can any form of dating nail anything that precisely.
“Come out to play-ee-yay...”
Human beings have been thinking ever since they have been human, but Berlin predates thought. I guess the point is they wouldn’t have put a city there if they’d been thinking.
Note: this topic is from 1/31/2008. Thanks blam.But, uh...
"The archaeologists know it was felled in 1192. What it doesn't prove is that it was built in 1192, but it probably was at least within a year or two," she said.Unless the bark is on the wood, RC dating can't pinpoint when a tree was felled.
An author named Edward Rutherfurd wrote very comprehensive books about the history of London, Salisbury etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Rutherfurd
James Michener also wrote comprehensive history about various locations.
Coelln was founded by German settlers. Berlin, on the other side of the river, was a Slavic town. The Slavs were eventually pushed East and the two towns merged into a city of a Germanic character.
The process is summed up rather nicely at the Crow Canyon Archaeological Center web page:
This chronometric technique is the most precise dating tool available to archaeologists who work in areas where trees are particularly responsive to annual variations in precipitation, such as the American Southwest.
Developed by astronomer A. E. Douglass in the 1920s, dendrochronologyor tree-ring datinginvolves matching the pattern of tree rings in archaeological wood samples to the pattern of tree rings in a sequence of overlapping samples extending back thousands of years. These cross-dated sequences, called chronologies, vary from one part of the world to the next. In the American Southwest, the unbroken sequence extends back to 322 B.C.
So, when an archaeologist finds a well-preserved piece of woodsay, a roof beam from an ancient pithousedendrochronologists prepare a cross section and then match the annual growth rings of the specimen to those in the already-established chronology to determine the year the tree was cut down.
Read how A. E. Douglass pioneered the science of tree rings in this 1929 National Geographic article titled PDF.doc -"The Secret of the Southwest Solved by Talkative Tree Rings." Includes numerous fascinating historic photographs.
The Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research in Tucson is the world's oldest dendrochronology lab; their website includes information for researchers and the general public.
The Science of Tree Rings is an educational website with lots of informationfrom basic definitions and principles to links to tree-ring databases and other resources.
Again — if there’s no bark, there’s no grounds to claim that the cutting of the tree took place at such and such a date, particularly if it is a shaped piece of wood. That’s with or without dendrochronology. It’s interesting that dendrochronology antedates radiocarbon dating; now the methods are almost interchangeable in articles like this.
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