World warming despite cool Pacific and Baghdad snow (Global Cooling Denial Has Begun))

Reuters ^ | Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:51am EST | Alister Doyle

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OSLO (Reuters) - Climate change is still nudging up temperatures in the long term even though the warmest year was back in 1998 and 2008 has begun with unusual weather such as a cool Pacific and Baghdad's first snow in memory, experts said.

"Global warming has not stopped," said Amir Delju, senior scientific coordinator of the World Meteorological Organization's (WMO) climate program.

Last year was among the six warmest years since records began in the 1850s and the British Met Office said last week that 2008 will be the coolest year since 2000, partly because of a La Nina event that cuts water temperatures in the Pacific.

"We are in a minor La Nina period which shows a little cooling in the Pacific Ocean," Delju told Reuters. "The decade from 1998 to 2007 is the warmest on record and the whole trend is still continuing."

This year has started with odd weather including the first snows in Baghdad in memory on Friday and a New Year cold snap in India that killed more than 20 people. Frost hit some areas of Florida last week but orange groves escaped mostly unscathed.

Iraqis welcomed snow as an omen of peace. "It's the first time we've seen snow in Baghdad," said 60-year-old Hassan Zahar. "I looked at the faces of all the people, they were astonished."

Last year, parts of the northern hemisphere were having a record mild winter with even Alpine ski resorts starved of snow.

Delju said climate change, blamed mainly on human emissions of greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels, would bring bigger swings in the weather alongside a warming trend that will mean more heatwaves, droughts, floods and rising seas.

"The more frequent occurrence of extreme events all over the world -- floods in Australia, heavy snowfall in the Middle East -- can also be signs of warming," he said.

"UNEQUIVOCAL" WARMING

The U.N. Climate Panel said last year that global warming was "unequivocal." It said temperatures rose by 0.74 degrees Celsius (1.3 Fahrenheit) in the 20th century and could rise by a "best guess" of another 1.8 to 4.0C (3.2 to 7.2F) by 2100.

The record year for world temperatures was 1998, ahead of 2005, according to WMO data. Among recent signs of the effects of warming, Arctic sea ice shrank last year to a record low.

Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the U.N. Panel that shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, said he would look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century.

"One would really have to see on the basis of some analysis what this really represents," he told Reuters, adding "are there natural factors compensating?" for increases in greenhouse gases from human activities.

He added that skeptics about a human role in climate change delighted in hints that temperatures might not be rising. "There are some people who would want to find every single excuse to say that this is all hogwash," he said.

Delju said temperatures would have to be flat for several more years before a lack of new record years became significant.

He noted 2005 was the second hottest year and that 1998 was boosted by a strong El Nino event which can raise temperatures worldwide in the opposite of the La Nina cooling.

Underscoring an underlying rise in temperatures, British forecaster Phil Jones said 2001-07, with an average of 0.44 Celsius above the 1961-90 world average of 14 degrees, was 0.21 degree warmer than the corresponding values for 1991-2000.

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Saw some amazing images of Chinese soldiers all dressed up in fancy uniforms shoveling snow. Half of them had no gloves. But hey, those uniforms sure looked nice. From what I have read there has been dissent starting to manifest itself in China, but so far it has just been Internet rants. But you know how the Internet rants can some times get legs, or fancy blue dresses. Actually, right now would probably not be a good time for China to implode considering that the Globalist have more or less made our economy dependent on cheap Chinese labor. I am trying to think of any Chinese made products that I use that I may have to stock up on. Cannot think of any yet, but who knows. Sometimes those Made in US labels mean the label was made in the US.

[Rocky]

Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the U.N. Panel that shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, said he would look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century.

Yeah, we must look into that.

In the meantime, from the Space and Science Research Center in Florida:

We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet.

See Changes in the Sun’s Surface to Bring Next Climate Change

[saganite]

The record year for world temperatures was 1998, ahead of 2005,

I see they’re still propagating that lie.

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Great thread. Will check it out. I missed that one since I was in a mad rush to get last years taxes done by January 15th !

[Chode]

more bullsh!t from the Church of Global Warming...

[steelyourfaith]

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[alwaysconservative]

I’m a huge fan of global warming if it means that we warm up from -47 degrees (yes, below zero, with wind chill) to only -5 degrees (with little or no wind chill). I’m contemplating how to work “hibernation” into my business plan, LOL!

Thanks for the ping, xcamel!

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"We are in a minor La Nina period which shows a little cooling in the Pacific Ocean," Delju told Reuters. "The decade from 1998 to 2007 is the warmest on record and the whole trend is still continuing."

They're still using the discredited NASA data. They're not even aware that NASA has already corrected their data and admitted their "error".

Funny.

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They're still using the discredited NASA data. They're not even aware that NASA has already corrected their data and admitted their "error".

There are quite a few completely hilarious and insane moments occurring because people are just biting on the Global Warming Bandwagon and not realizing that they should be in a Climate Change Bandwagon. Watched a little blurb about some Ski Resort company that was concerned and investing in green projects because they were worried that we may have very little snow in the future. Considering what has been happening in the US West and China, that is hilarious. Kinda sad though when you think of all the wasted resources that could have been utilized to lift the poor out of poverty and could have been utilized to modernize the Third World. All wasted on preventing Global Warming when we are in reality beginning a Cooling phase.

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Where can I find the revised data in graph format?

Also - I was looking for the 2006-7 “corrected” data for surface temperatures - the “real” data after NASA re-corrected for the high temps in the mid-30’s (which NOBODY wants to admit!) and the corresponding dip between 1935-1972.

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And all the people starving because of skyrocketing food prices caused by US subsidies of ethanol production.

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I remember seeing a link at the NASA site but I can’t find it off the top of my head.

I’ll take a look later.

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Notice how the article is worded? Cold weather is “unusual.” But evil warming is entirely normal because it is caused by the advancement of man and capitalism.

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The official Global Socialist line now is that these unusual snow events and cold weather are not Climate Change. They are really starting to sound ridiculous. A changing climate is not climate change. You are correct because apparently their line is that nothing should be done about non-human caused climate change. Just grin and bare it. They are only concerned about addressing man-made climate change and since their Climate Models only predict warming from mans influences their new Climate Change phrase really means Global Warming or AGW. It does not mean Climate Change. How in the world can you accurately determine human induced climate change from natural climate change ? Obviously, you use computer models. So basically what the UN wants to do is change our climate to match their computer models.