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The Large US Companies That May Disappear In 2008
Wall Street 24/7 ^ | 1-24-08 | Douglas A. McIntyre

Posted on 01/30/2008 5:09:23 PM PST by Snickering Hound

Firestone. American Motors. Texaco. Pan Am. Worldcom. At one point or another these large American companies were at the top of their industries. Pan Am was the leading global airline for decades. All are gone. Some were sold off. Others went bankrupt. Who could have predicted it?

There are several iconic US companies that may well not exist at the end of 2008. Some may not even make it halfway through the year. Not all will go out of business. Some may simply be auctioned off in pieces. Others may be bought. These companies will not exist in their current forms as they are known to their shareholders and consumers now.

When a company ceases to exist as an independent entity, it is not necessarily bad for shareholders. Some may be worth more in parts. Often a bust-up or merger is what brings owners the most money.

Here are the big ones that probably won't make it.

Motorola (MOT) was the No.2 handset maker in the world a little more than two years ago. Its Razr took the wireless industry by storm. It did not follow that product up with another winner and its larger rival, Nokia (NOK) began to take up market share. Smaller competitors Samsung and Sony Ericsson came out with popular phones and Motorola was under siege. Carl Icahn took a stake and tried to get the company to improve its pay-out or sell-off some of its divisions. The board sent him away. Since then things have gotten worse. Motorola's share price was over $25 in late 2006. It is now below $12. The company's handset business may well be bought by Samsung and its enterprise telecom and home set-top business to companies could be acquired by Cisco (CSCO) and Nortel (NT). A tech-oriented private equity firm might also buy the set-top box unit. As an independent company, MOT has no future.

Sears Holdings (SHLD) is billionaire Eddie Lampert's experiment at merging big retailers Sears and K-Mart. Unfortunately both were in bad shape at the outset. Putting them together did not help either business. The company has a 52-week high of $195 and now trades at $103. Sears has now reported a string of bad earnings. Last week reports began to appear that Lampert may spin-off the company's real estate and break the firm into several operating units, each of which would have more operating autonomy. The CEO has been pushed out in favor of a "temp". That sounds like the prelude to an auction.

Citigroup (C) is almost certainly not out of the woods. A recent report in the Financial Times said that US financial company write-offs for the entire sector could total $300 billion this year. Fortune magazine has written that Citi has another $37 billion in CDOs on its balance sheet. It also has LBO loans which it cannot syndicate because of poor credit markets. Shares of JP Morgan (JPM) and Bank of America (BAC) have recovered a good deal from their sell-offs. Citi has not. Wall St. is worried that the level of risk in owning the shares is just too great. A close look at the bank shows that it has some valuable businesses which operate independent of the troubled part of the company. Citi's wealth management operation grew 27% last quarter. This division includes Smith Barney. The firm's international consumer revenue rose 45%. It is Citi's securities and banking operations which is dragging the company down. With a recession and more financial company write-offs coming, Citi will have to get smaller by selling one or two of its valuable businesses. The global wealth management business had $3.5 billion in revenue in Q4 and $523 million in net income. Citi's market cap is only $140 billion now. Its consumer units could be worth more than that on their own.

Ford (F) is trading about where it did when there were rumors that the company would go bankrupt. This car company has a market cap of $13 billion against annual sales of $173 billion. Ford lost another $2.8 billion in Q4 and is planning to cut another 13,000 jobs. It has a credit unit which made $775 million last year. Ford is already in the process of selling some small units including Jaguar and Rover. Volvo might be next. The company's share of the US market is down to about 15%. Even with cost cuts, its product line works against a recovery. The firm's pick-ups and SUVs have good margins, but high fuel prices have cut into sales. Ford's new fuel-efficient cars compete directly with companies that have much stronger balance sheet like Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC). Ford is highly unlikely to stage a unit sales recovery in North America this year. If sales fall further, cuts won't make up the difference forever. The Ford family, which has de facto control of the company, will have to look at selling the car operations to a large Asian or European auto company. That would allow for a consolidation of production, product development, R&D, and marketing. Bottom line--billions of dollars in annual savings.

Yahoo! (YHOO) won't make it through the first half as a standalone. There has been speculation that the company might be sold to Microsoft (MSFT) in the press for months. It may take an outside investor coming in and buying a large stake to push the board's hand. Recent analysis from Wall St. shows that about half of the company's $28 billion market cap comes from the value its stake in Yahoo! Japan and China e-commerce company Alibaba. That leaves $14 billion for the core portal and search business which has a revenue run rate of about $6.8 billion a year. This has to be attractive to companies like Microsoft and News Corp (NWS). Weak Q4 2007 earnings and a shaky forecast for 2008 has hurt the shares more. The company has said it will lay-off several hundred people.

AMD (AMD) is the second largest provider of chips and processors for servers and PC's. Its larger rival, Intel (INTC), has over three-quarters of the market. A price war has hurt AMD's gross margins badly. The firm also bought graphic chip company ATI and now has over $5 billion in debt. Shares were over $40 less than two years ago and now trade at a little over $7. For AMD to hope to compete, it needs a larger owner with a wider global chip business and better balance sheet. Intel has close to $13 billion in cash and short-term investments and 20% operating income margins on nearly $40 billion in revenue. Where would AMD fit? Somewhere with chip R&D expertise, a broad line of semiconductors, and a mammoth global customer base. Look for Taiwan Semiconductor (TSM) or Samsung to court AMD's board.

Sprint (S) should never have merged with NexTel, but it is a little too late for that to be fixed now. It traded above $23 about a year ago and recently fell to close to $8. While AT&T (T) and Verizon (VZ) post enviable wireless numbers, Sprint struggles to keep current subscribers. Sprint is cutting bodies but Wall St. has no confidence that fewer people and these modest savings will turn around the company. Its issues of being an independent wireless company with angry customers are simply too great. SK Telecom, a big Korean operator, has already come to Sprint with a proposed investment. The board did not listen. But, the company's shares were not at $10 then. SK may well be back. The other potential buyer often mentioned is Comcast (CMCSA). After years of beating on the big US phone companies, Comcast is now up against their fiber-to-the-home broadband and TV products. And, it is losing customers to them. What Comcast does not have is a wireless service to offer consumers and businesses as part of a "bundle" of services. At $6 or $7 Sprint could look very attractive.

Qwest (Q) is the last of the Baby Bells standing from the break-up of the old AT&T. It is the dominant phone company in 14 states. Its shares have fallen from a 52-week high of $10.45 to just below $6. Qwest has two problems which it cannot solve. The first is that it has no real wireless operations. That is what is driving the market valuation of rivals AT&T (T) and Verizon (VZ). Qwest also does not have the balance sheet to upgrade all of its infrastructure to fiber like Verizon is doing. AT&T has started the fiber build-out process. There are rumors that it will get into the TV business by buying one of the satellite TV companies. Either way, Qwest does not have the balance sheet to run fiber across its service area. Qwest does have a very valuable customer and geographic base. Watch for Verizon to get in touch with Qwest's board. The larger company could use Qwest's customer base to push its wireless services in bundles. It could also build out fiber into Qwest's region if the return-on-investment for the current project is good.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: amd; citigroup; fordmotor; motorola; qwest; sears; sprint; telecom; yahoo
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To: Squawk 8888

The company does not exist anymore. Someone bought the rights to the name and logo. That’s all. It’s probably owned by a japanese company now.


81 posted on 01/30/2008 7:00:01 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: VegasCowboy; Clintonfatigued

They are poorly managed because existing tax laws encourage CEO’s to do what they can to make their stock shares increase in value aa quickly as possible . . .

No matter if that wrecks the company in a few years, by which time they leave with their stock and golden parachute.

Increase income tax rate to 90% of personal income over a million a year, and those same CEO’s will have to spend decades working to retire in style.

This would encourage them to run a company for the long term.

That’s how it used to be.


82 posted on 01/30/2008 7:00:02 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Captain Peter Blood; Cringing Negativism Network

See my post above, #82, for the solution.


83 posted on 01/30/2008 7:01:35 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: mamelukesabre
I thought Studebaker became Gravely Corp.
84 posted on 01/30/2008 7:02:32 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Thanks for asking.

If I could create some sort of construct, it would involve complete, wild-west no holds barred anything-goes competition domestically.

Combined with a hard tough-as-steel national trade policy which brooked no quarter, and hammered on our competitors without mercy or pause, until America owned them.

Obviously, both would end up compromises some measure from those two ideals... :)


85 posted on 01/30/2008 7:03:12 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Muleteam1

I drove one of these a long time ago. Seats were very low and the windshield was small...


86 posted on 01/30/2008 7:04:03 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Age of Reason
That is precisely what happened with Iridium. They made 6B in 1996 on that, and those guys are gone.
87 posted on 01/30/2008 7:05:22 PM PST by eyedigress ( leave junior alone!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I’m glad someone here on FR is paying attention where they should be.

You’re spot-on. This is why I’ve been telling people on various threads to quite spouting macro-economic stats and start paying attention to the credit markets. All this pointing at the macro econ stats and saying “the economy isn’t that bad, why is the Fed cutting?!” and “Bernanke is going to make the US dollar worthless!”

The monolines being downgraded is a BIG hit on the credit markets. Huge, in fact.

Without a huge infusion of capital, I don’t see the monolines getting their AAA’s back soon.


88 posted on 01/30/2008 7:07:19 PM PST by NVDave
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To: what's up
Kohl’s? Do they sell suits?

Yep, they do.

You should see the Ralph Lauren suit I picked up there on sale last month. A real beauty that fits like a dream. Pure wool...for $105....marked down 75%. I watched the price go down for months and hit a sale.

I'll look real sharp when I go on interviews after my job is off-shored in Q4-2008.

89 posted on 01/30/2008 7:07:23 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Wasn’t it originally RCA Victor?

(dog, and the old Victrola)

RCA Victor, became Japan Victor Corp? (JVC) perhaps?


90 posted on 01/30/2008 7:08:51 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

thats the spirit


91 posted on 01/30/2008 7:09:06 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

LOL, I bought some small rugs there a month ago. (They didn’t fit) :(


92 posted on 01/30/2008 7:10:11 PM PST by eyedigress ( leave junior alone!)
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To: JasonC; dennisw
AMD and Samsung are two companies that I know I can buy their products without worry. I am typing on an AMD PC and listening to a Samsung MP3 box now.

If anyone foreign has to get involved with AMD, I would much rather have the Koreans get it than the Chinese. Korea is becoming the Mecca of technology.

93 posted on 01/30/2008 7:11:14 PM PST by Sender (I've been chicken franchised.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

From Wikipedia:

AM General’s roots (and its location in South Bend) lie with the “General Products Division” of Studebaker, which, along with its substantial defense contracts, was acquired by Kaiser Industries after Studebaker left the auto industry in 1966. American Motors Corporation (AMC) became the owner when it purchased the Jeep Corporation from Kaiser in 1970, and Kaiser left the auto business. In 1971, AMC made the General Products Division of Jeep (producing contract and non-commercial vehicles) a wholly owned subsidiary and renamed it AM General Corporation. American Motors ended its history as an independent automaker in 1982 when controlling interest in the company was purchased by France’s Renault. US Government regulations forbade ownership of defense contractors by foreign governments, and Renault was partially owned by the French government. Therefore, in 1983, AM General was sold by AMC to the LTV Corporation and it became a wholly owned subsidiary of the LTV Aerospace and Defense Company.


94 posted on 01/30/2008 7:11:29 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Outland
A Javelin? Are you smoking crack? wow .... :)

That thing was the biggest POS vehicle my family owned back in the 70's and we went through a LOT of them as my dad was hell on cars. I still remember our javelin and how the interior came off in your hands and the armrests would fall off. That thing made a yugo like like a high quality piece of automotive engineering.

95 posted on 01/30/2008 7:12:55 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Sender
Digital Stream was writing the code for Philips in 03, I think they may be Korean.
96 posted on 01/30/2008 7:13:54 PM PST by eyedigress ( leave junior alone!)
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To: NVDave
The monolines being downgraded is a BIG hit on the credit markets. Huge, in fact.

For some of us n00bs to finance can you explain what these things do exactly? Thanks.

97 posted on 01/30/2008 7:14:43 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Sender

I have a ton of respect for Korean hi tech products and Samsung has it’s act together. They are very big in memory and LCDs just to start.

AMD-—>>> Am typing on a Athlon 4600 X2 (AM2) computer I put together


98 posted on 01/30/2008 7:17:15 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

From Wikipedia:

RCA, formerly an acronym for the Radio Corporation of America, is now a trademark owned by Thomson SA through RCA Trademark Management S.A., a company owned by Thomson. The trademark is used by two companies, namely Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Thomson SA (the owner of the RCA name), which licences the name to other companies like Audiovox for products descended from that common ancestor.

BTW, RCA-victor was a merger between victor and RCA. Victor made the “victrola” phonograph. That’s the one with the dog. I could be wrong, but I think “motorola” was originally the “car radio” division of victor(victrola)...motor-victrola...get it?


99 posted on 01/30/2008 7:18:37 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Nik Naym
Brand names often live on long long after the companies that owned them have ceased to exist.

Very true; brand names are often the most valuable asset a company has. That's why GM still markets Pontiac, Chevrolet and Buick decades after buying them out.

100 posted on 01/30/2008 7:20:38 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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