Posted on 01/30/2008 1:50:21 PM PST by FewsOrange
I just wish Ronald Reagan would have woken up and pumped trillions of dollars in the old Soviet Union. Just think how much better this world would be. /s
Those who back what we’re doing with China should hang their heads in shame, crawl into a closet, roll up in a ball and rock back and forth.
Should we worry that the people of China, India and other undeveloped countries are getting richer?
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yes if the Chinese government takes a slice of all that money and uses it to build nukes to threaten Taiwan and keep its own citizens under authoritarian control.
When will libertarians understand that governments can oppress people? They claim to but do they really when they give very bad governments a pass?
I’m not drawing a false equivalence, but I remember drinking Stolichnaya during the Cold War. Someone was buying it and importing it (meaning that it wasn’t smuggled).
Now that I think about it, I stopped drinking Stoli after the Soviets shot down KAL 007. So it was available during the Reagan era.
Oh how can you say that? You are so Asiaphobic! /s
Yep. Good point.
I don’t think anyone is going to buy into the idea that Reagan was trying to exploit trade with Russia while trying to bankrupt it.
We sure have a lot of folks on the forum today trying to take Reagan to task to justify what they want to do today.
It would be nice if just once it was addressing the same issue on the same scale.
It's difficult to get rich selling stuff to poor people.
I doubt the Chinese would want to nuke Taiwan. Too close to the mainland.
Again, I am not defending our current situation with China. I can assume the Reagan wouldn't be too pleased with it either. But I can also assume that Reagan, through his belief in free markets, would have been pondering some way to introduce it to the Chinese. We know that he lectured the Soviets on the subject nearly every chance he got.
China has greatly raised our standard of living because of our trade with China. In short, we all have more goods and services than we would otherwise have without trade with China.
It is impossible for America to make all the goods and services that we currently consume today. Where we would get the capacity to do so when we are at full employment in economic terms? This is the key fact that stops the anti-China folks in their tracks. Of course, we could go back to the days when VCRs cost $1,000 but were made here in the good ole USA.
Let China produce all the toasters it wants and we will buy them cheap with our higher paying jobs (it’s called comparative advantage folks).
As the people in China becomes more prosperous from our trade, China will become more Westernized.
It is a win-win for all of us.
I do not think there is any way in hell Ronald Reagan would have supported massive trade with Russia, while it remained a communist authoritarian state forcing troops to keep their guns trained on it’s easter block citizen, to keep them from fleeing.
What is China today if not the same thing?
And besides, this is all utter nonsense. We didn’t conduct massive trade with Russia under Reagan. Acting as if he would have been for it is pointless. He didn’t implement it.
Meanwhile, to hell with the regular American workers who watch their jobs go overseas. As long as CEO’s and shareholders can make more money, then everything is fine.
One other good reason to applaud their growing wealth: painless population control.
Almost all first world nations (except the US) have to encourage their citizens to reproduce at anything close to replacement rates.
Wealth beats warfare as the Malthusian Solution of Choice.
Darn, he just dropped out.
LOL!
Well, since Reagan facilitated the break-up of the old Soviet Union, giving whole nations the opportunity to escape the oppression of the USSR and switch to free-market economies, pumping trillions of dollars into their economy is effectively just what he did! ...and it's been a great thing.
He didn't mind the thought of the people of the USSR becoming wealthy, because wealthy people have more power against an oppressive and wealthy government.
The same is true of India and China.
Be careful not to confuse the government and the people. The people of China probably don't like the communist government much more than you do. Making them wealthier will only help to weaken their government's power over them.
Wealth, particularly widespread wealth, is a good thing.
Shhh!!! We dasn’t check all those containers that go out from Chinese ports labeled “Maching Tools,” thousands and thousands of them.
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