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To: pissant

Open question: Why is it that liberals are so good at being subversives (and I mean everywhere: schools, churches, politics) and conservatives break off and begin anew? New media, charter schools, evangelical movement... and then the conservatives are labeled “fringe” and laughed at by the mother organization.


44 posted on 01/29/2008 10:28:46 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: littlehouse36
Open question: Why is it that liberals are so good at being subversives (and I mean everywhere: schools, churches, politics) and conservatives break off and begin anew?

Because it's so easy to infiltrate using liberal cliche's . It's all emotional tripe that requires no thought or explanation. It appeals to the least common denominator and they are becoming more common by the day.

I think it was Ben Franklin who said the following: "We have given you a republic if you can keep it".

Well we might be in the midst of losing it.

84 posted on 01/29/2008 10:57:34 PM PST by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: littlehouse36
You know why a portion of them are laughed at. I give you Mike Huckabee.
183 posted on 01/30/2008 5:31:27 AM PST by mimaw
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To: littlehouse36

Open question: Why is it that liberals are so good at being subversives (and I mean everywhere: schools, churches, politics) and conservatives break off and begin anew? New media, charter schools, evangelical movement... and then the conservatives are labeled “fringe” and laughed at by the mother organization.
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Because libs make it their job, their way of making a living to be political activists. It fits thier philosophy and since they have no religious faith and the like, they have no other interests to pursue, so socialism is their calling. It’s tough to fight the long wars in the trenches of organizations against libs once they have a foothold. The will keep burrowing. It’s their job — and their calling — and their core faith.

P.S. — Just a note for anyone reading. With McCain our likely nominee (which is ok, except on the amnesty issue!) — conservatives absolutely positively MUST get involved in the secure borders and anti-amnesty groups to give them the cash and the foot soldiers to fight in a few years if McCain is stupid enough to wreck his popularity and try again for amnesty. I think if we are getting a recession that low wage illegals will get even more unpopular so we may be o.k. — but have to get involved now. We face 4 more years of fighting this issue without anyone to veto the amnesty bill if McCain, Obama or Hillary win.


189 posted on 01/30/2008 5:45:27 AM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
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To: littlehouse36

Because a conservative is by nature a self-reliant individualist.


197 posted on 01/30/2008 6:40:06 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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To: littlehouse36

Cause liberals have an agenda of socialism. All their fringe groups contribute to that. The GOP has an agenda of staying in power, and are fearful of devolution of power as most strong conservatives want to see happen.


333 posted on 01/30/2008 1:19:27 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: littlehouse36

We are the wood and they are the termites.


343 posted on 01/30/2008 1:35:17 PM PST by firebrand
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To: littlehouse36
Open question: Why is it that liberals are so good at being subversives (and I mean everywhere: schools, churches, politics) and conservatives break off and begin anew? New media, charter schools, evangelical movement... and then the conservatives are labeled “fringe” and laughed at by the mother organization.

Because, unlike liberals, conservatives are impatient, unobservant, and socially/politically inept.

We always seem to be after victory in The One Big Battle, whereas liberals are always happy to accept incremental gains. (This goes back to patience....) Liberals know very well how to avoid the One Big Battle, and are also very adept at choosing their ground when the One Big Battle cannot be avoided. And (because they're patient), liberals know that there is really no such thing as One Big Battle: they need only wait until the conservatives stop paying attention, and they can begin digging again.

Also, conservatives tend to be incredibly naive about the rules of the game. For example, we always seem to assume that the other side accepts the same set of rules, and we insist on playing by "conservative" rules even when it's clear that those rules don't apply.

By extension, conservatives generally have no clue about how to deal with situations where there is not already broad agreement on the problem or its solution. We generally fall back on behaving against all evidence as if everybody did agree ... which is the road to marginalization.

Finally, conservatives will usually favor principle over practicality, and we tend to bash people over the head with our principles without considering how our presentation will be perceived. Peoples' feelings matter, especially in politics, and lots of times we come across as ranting SOBs. Forget the principle -- folks will reject the conservative message based on our unpleasantness.

The late pundit Samuel Francis used to call the GOP "the Stupid Party." The above are a few of the reasons why.

353 posted on 01/30/2008 2:29:24 PM PST by r9etb
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To: littlehouse36

exactly.


357 posted on 01/30/2008 2:40:55 PM PST by ProCivitas (Pro-America = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Duncan Hunter for President (gohunter08.com))
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