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The Death of the GOP and the Birth of a New Political Party
RMS941 ^ | 1/29/08 | AJ Madison

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:21 PM PST by pissant

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To: End Times Crusader

You gotta be kidding, but I missed the /sarcasm.

Did you know that McCain was a POW in ‘Nam? Kerry redux. yeah, I know McCain was real, and Kerry a coward, but still...amnesty, taxes, “gun-show loophole,” global warming...

Can’t vote for him. Nope, wouldn’t be prudent. I’m writing in Fred Thompson. It will make me feel better than staying home.


61 posted on 01/29/2008 10:39:23 PM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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To: al baby

Absolute nonsense. The U.S. will thrive long after we are gone.


62 posted on 01/29/2008 10:39:39 PM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader

Why? Why does this thread bother you? What difference would a person going to another existing party or joining a start up make?


63 posted on 01/29/2008 10:40:01 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: fabian; Jim Robinson
I both agree and disagree. There is a solution that I never hear discussed and it is about time we started talking about it. In New Your, where I grew up, they have a stable FOUR party system: Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal. The reason that the NY Conservative Party isn't a "third party" is that they routinely endorse the conservative candidates running as Republicans. In other words, dual endorsement is normal in NY. When a liberal is running as a GOP candidate, the Conservative Party run a separate contender. Why isn't there a national party like this? Why couldn't it start here on FR? The National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA) is a step in the right direction but it has nothing to do when a conservative isn't running.
64 posted on 01/29/2008 10:40:22 PM PST by newberger
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To: pissant

Better idea would be to join a third party en masse already in existence and take it over and trim off some of the kookier fringes of it. Let the RNC (Rinos, Not Conservatives) go the way of the Whigs.


65 posted on 01/29/2008 10:41:26 PM PST by Grunthor (No McCain-Kennedy. No Huckaliar. NO JUDY! Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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To: pissant

We don’t need a 3rd party. We need a second party to displace the GOP operatives entrenched in DC. The GOP failed in 2006. It is more than likely to fail in 2008, and beyond. The GOP establishment has ignored folks at the grass roots for decades. It is time to stop, once and for all, their endless trail of empty promises.


66 posted on 01/29/2008 10:42:23 PM PST by gpapa ("My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim" - Fred Thompson)
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To: newberger

sorry for all the typos and the lack of paragraphs. I pressed “post” too quickly.


67 posted on 01/29/2008 10:42:36 PM PST by newberger
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To: End Times Crusader
Not voting Republican = Voting Democrat Clear enough?

Voting for McCain = Voting Democrat

Clear enough?

68 posted on 01/29/2008 10:43:32 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
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To: littlehouse36

Republican voters appear to agree with me.


69 posted on 01/29/2008 10:44:05 PM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader

A third party does not have to elect a president to be significant. A large impact can be made at the state/local level. And if a few House seats move to a third party, it could really upset the “balance” of the house.


70 posted on 01/29/2008 10:45:25 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: End Times Crusader

I’m laughing at the combination of your ID & tagline. Funny because it rings true.


71 posted on 01/29/2008 10:46:18 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: TBP

Sorry, while the majority of the Constitution Party platform is acceptable to me, it’s head in the sand, we are not at war with terrorists, is simply unsound and unsafe.


72 posted on 01/29/2008 10:47:22 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: littlehouse36

“McCain is the beat-Hillary candidate.”

No, he’s not. He’s the one that will make the most conservatives stay home. Remember 2006!


73 posted on 01/29/2008 10:47:38 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: pissant

Actually it’s past time. The eager endorsement of the Republican Party beltway establishment of the worst RINO backstabbing liberal fraud imaginable as the party’s prefered nominee is a clear and unmistakable statement on the behalf of the national party leadership that conservatives, the constituency that gave these ungrateful and despicable SOBs the political majority they enjoyed before they squandered, abused, and betrayed it; that conservatives are not only no longer welcome in “their” party but unnecessary to their future political aims, is evidence enough that this party is finished as a vehicle for the advancement of small, limited government conservatism and Constitutional originality and governmental restraint.

The one and only reason I was motivated to support this party was its promise to pursue conservative principles and implement conservative reforms to reverse the massive damage liberalism has visited upon this nation for many decades like a plague. Now that it has become crystal clear that all my efforts, donations, fund raising, grassroots volunteering, and half a century of struggle, sweat, and toil to elect committed conservatives has been rewarded with a kick in the face and a waste of time, I won’t be there the next time the RNC or the party establishment cries for money, donations, and support. I have had it for good. If conservatives are no longer welcome in the Republican Party and are indeed despised by the RINOs that run it, then the only option for conservatives is to form their own party since conservatives have tried to transform the Republican Party into a conservative one for over 50 years and have been fought tooth and nail and betrayed by RINO liberals at every turn.

Let the GD Republican Party join the rotten and diseased Democrat Party in its march over a cliff toward jackbooted socialism and globalist oblivion for a once sovereign, strong, and free America. I will not lift a finger to assist in that nightmare. If Juan Manchurian McCain remains the party’s candidate in 2008, then I will have no dog in this fight because it will only be a contest between two groups of big government liberal socialists neither of which represent anything I cherish or believe in.

The Republican Party leadership knows that supporting a pompous liberal jackass like McCain will anger many in the Republican base and divide the party before a national election, thus greatly endangering a Republican victory in 2008. However, the desire of large cash contributions from the vast illegal labor lobby and the greed for votes from Hispanic race coalitions to keep these degenerate, immoral jerks in power overrides the rule of law, national security concerns, the overwhelming objections of their conservative voter base, and last but not least, common sense.

Conservatives need a party that not only supports their ideals but actually keeps their promises and delivers results. The Republican Party has continually failed to do this, finally culminating in its leadership seeking to throw conservatives under a bus after using them to get elected. I will no longer suffer from a political form of “beaten wife syndrome” and be a chump and a sucker for an organization that holds me and my ideology in contempt. Goodbye GOP. You claim that you don’t need conservatives to get elected in 2008 and beyond? Well come November, we’ll see.


74 posted on 01/29/2008 10:48:51 PM PST by Imperial Warrior
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To: pissant

Save the Hunter ping list. I want to keep up on what Duncan Hunter is up to. I am sure many others would appreciate the pings, also.

btw, thanks for this ping. I’m in agreement with Mr. Madison once again.


75 posted on 01/29/2008 10:49:13 PM PST by upsdriver (Thank you, Duncan Hunter! ! Like Ronald Reagan, you make me proud to be an American!)
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To: End Times Crusader
Voting for Rudy = sin (to support someone who is pro-abortion to me is a sin)

Clear enough?

If there is no difference between a RINO and a Dem ... let the Dem take the heat for the mistakes.

76 posted on 01/29/2008 10:50:23 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Lancey Howard; The Spirit Of Allegiance; khnyny; Old Sarge; Keyes2000mt; advance_copy; CindyDawg; ..


There's no need for long faces. The Falcons are looking good. In fact, the Falcons have been checking out some of the best of the best quarter-backs, including Southern Cal's John David Booty.

Also, Falcon's Coach Smith just hired three new assistants.

So let's hear a woot woot for the Falcons! February 6 is right around the corner!

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The Falcons, who will select third, fourth or fifth in the NFL draft, start their draft meetings on Feb. 6 and will scrutinize this year's quarterback class..."

INSIDE THE NFL: Falcons size up Senior Bowl QBs

Falcons coach Smith adds 3 to staff
Team still needs an offensive line coach to help work with inexperienced unit

Falcons coach Mike Smith added three more assistants to his staff on Tuesday..."

Falcons coach Smith adds 3 to staff


77 posted on 01/29/2008 10:50:43 PM PST by bd476
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To: pissant

It’s been time for a long time. The only thing you can count on in each presidential election is that the GOP nomination ain’t going to a conservative.


78 posted on 01/29/2008 10:51:01 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Rockitz

“Fealty” is loyalty, but there isn’t any good reason to use such an antique word. “Faith” is just as good, and it still begins with “F”.


79 posted on 01/29/2008 10:52:49 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: End Times Crusader
Republican voters appear to agree with me.

You sound like Michael Medved. Who cares about principle, as long as you're siding with a winner!!!

80 posted on 01/29/2008 10:53:04 PM PST by Junior_G
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