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To: Sideshow Bob
And neither you nor even the holy and infallible Dr. James Dobson speak on behalf of all evangelicals.

I know that but since Dr. Dobson is an Evangelical, and I am an Evangelical and he described my point of view, a point of view about Thompson that I have corroborated with my family and lot of other Evangelical Christians, I'd say that Dobson nailed it this time. He did not influence me, he just agrees with me. There's a big difference.

I don't think that Dobson attacked Thompson, he simply pointed out, in a conversation with a reporter, that Thompson did not appear to be Christian, a fact that did not help him with evangelicals. That's all. I believe that if Thompson had assured Dobson, in private conversation, that he believed that Jesus had died to save him from his sins, that Dobson would have proclaimed "Thank God we have a Conservative Christian running for the presidency!!!". If Thompson is a Christian, he should not have been ashamed or afraid to say so. But he simply wouldn't say so. He is what he is and he ain't what he ain't but thank God that can change if God wants it to.

Nice post BTW. I agree with many of the mistakes you listed.

340 posted on 01/29/2008 11:21:13 PM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: Theophilus
I believe that if Thompson had assured Dobson, in private conversation, that he believed that Jesus had died to save him from his sins, that Dobson would have proclaimed "Thank God we have a Conservative Christian running for the presidency!!!

Of course, the inconvenient detail in all of this was that Dobson had never spoken to Thompson at the point of his interview with the reporter. So, Dobson was just guessing. Off-the-cuff. About a person's salvation status. Not very responsible. And certainly beyond the pale for someone who purports to be a leader.

Dobson wanted to get out in front of this story and put a black mark next to Fred's name. Mission accomplished.

341 posted on 01/29/2008 11:27:47 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Theophilus
"And neither you nor even the holy and infallible Dr. James Dobson speak on behalf of all evangelicals."

I know that but since Dr. Dobson is an Evangelical, and I am an Evangelical and he described my point of view, a point of view about Thompson that I have corroborated with my family and lot of other Evangelical Christians, I'd say that Dobson nailed it this time.

And I am an evangelical and Dobson took actions and made statements contrary to my point of view - a point of view about Thompson that I corroborated with my family and a lot of other evangelical Christians. And I'd say that Dobson was an egotistical, religious bigot this time. And it sounds like 808bass has experienced a similar reaction.

Do you understand my point on evangelical uniform thought now?

I don't think that Dobson attacked Thompson, he simply pointed out, in a conversation with a reporter, that Thompson did not appear to be Christian, a fact that did not help him with evangelicals. That's all. I believe that if Thompson had assured Dobson, in private conversation, that he believed that Jesus had died to save him from his sins, that Dobson would have proclaimed "Thank God we have a Conservative Christian running for the presidency!!!". If Thompson is a Christian, he should not have been ashamed or afraid to say so. But he simply wouldn't say so. He is what he is and he ain't what he ain't but thank God that can change if God wants it to.

For the last time, Thompson did assure Dobson of his faith in private conversation - a conversation requested (demanded?) by Dobson.

And Dobson did not simply point out an objection to Fred in casual conversation to a reporter. Apparently Thompson's private assurance of faith didn't meet Dobson's bigoted standard, so Dobson STAGED a leaked email which surfaced in the media and caused reporters to seek out Dobson's statement "on the record." And then during these "on the record" interviews Dobson slagged Fred again and again.

Fred did publicly proclaim his faith. He didn't hide it. He didn't exaggerate it. He didn't use it to bludgeon his opponents. And he said it neither validated nor disqualified his candidacy.

I think it's the best possible stance on religion for any public official.

I understand that you are trying to defend Dobson. But what Dobson did is indefensible, immoral and wrong. And conservatives will pay for it for at least 4 more years.

345 posted on 01/29/2008 11:52:12 PM PST by Sideshow Bob (McCain's general election loss will rival the defeats of McGovern and Mondale!!!)
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To: Theophilus

the808bass says Dobson had not yet spoken privately with Fred prior to the news story. I was under the distinct impression that he had. Either way, Dobson was wrong for his statement and actions.


347 posted on 01/30/2008 12:01:44 AM PST by Sideshow Bob (McCain's general election loss will rival the defeats of McGovern and Mondale!!!)
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