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The Death of Conservatism? - 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice
Sideshow Bob | January 29, 2008 | Sideshow Bob

Posted on 01/29/2008 11:55:19 AM PST by Sideshow Bob

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To: DannyTN

As for me, I prefer Huckabee, but will take anybody over Romney. And that’s includes ‘rats if need be.
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after all both Huck and dems are for big government and against freedom


41 posted on 01/29/2008 12:32:46 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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To: NavVet

I agreee with you. Dobson’s attack on Thompson was disasterous.


42 posted on 01/29/2008 12:33:35 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Antoninus

Well I thought about going 3rd party. But if Romney gets the nod, I’ll only vote 3rd party if I’m relatively certain Romney will lose anyway.


43 posted on 01/29/2008 12:34:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Richard Kimball

it’s people like Buchanan and Huckabee that excite people into writing big checks for Planned Parenthood and NARAL


44 posted on 01/29/2008 12:35:24 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hillary wants to be just like Gov. Granholm except more evil.)
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To: Huck

See Mistake #40


45 posted on 01/29/2008 12:37:16 PM PST by TexanByBirth (No I don't like you or your RINO candidate!)
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To: BibChr
...Dr. James Dobson and other egotistical evangelicals

Credibility-flush. Writer has personal issues. I stop reading.

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No, Reader has personal issues and stopped thinking.

Believe it or not, evangelicals are not infallible and can fall to the sin of egotism. Dobson may be a strong man of faith and a learned Biblical scholar, but he knows little of the rough & tumble world of partisan politics and made a bad choice.

46 posted on 01/29/2008 12:37:18 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: ari-freedom

Oh and Romney’s not? Huck’s tax increases were mostly driven by a court order. Club for Growth gave Romney a 50 and Hucabee a 49. Not a lot of difference.

At least Huckabee is a social conservative. Giulani would be a lot better than Romney, if you have to vote for a social liberal.


47 posted on 01/29/2008 12:38:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: hugorand

That is what I have said. After 4 years disaster, country would be ready for someone really decent


48 posted on 01/29/2008 12:39:38 PM PST by graceland
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To: Antoninus
If you want the National GOP of the future to resemble the Massachusetts GOP of today, vote for Mitt.

Indeed. Many nation-wide conservatives should have learned the lesson Schwartzneggar taught Californians with S.B. 777. Unfortunately, many didn't.

49 posted on 01/29/2008 12:40:19 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

It took a Carter to bring us Reagan.


50 posted on 01/29/2008 12:41:45 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: graceland

Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.


51 posted on 01/29/2008 12:42:02 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: dinoparty

The principles of Conservatism aren’t constantly moving to the left. All of the candidates, except Thompson and Hunter are moving to the left.

The MSM is a living, breathing force that is pulling/skewing everything to the left. McCain will be touted as a conservative by the MSM. In reality, McCain is probably leaning a little on the liberal side of the Liberal/Conservative meter.

On a scale of 0 to 100, with 0 being ultra left and 100 being ultra conservative, here are where the candidates actually rate:

Clinton = 5
Obama = 8
Edwards = 10

McCain = 40
Giulinai = 40
Romney = 45
Huckabee = 45

Thompson = 75
Hunter = 85


52 posted on 01/29/2008 12:43:19 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Actualy, Rush, like me is suggesting that the only thing that will bring Conservatives back together is for someone like Hillary to be in office for very long.

The problem is that conservatives will be more than ready to elect the first alledged conservative that comes along, when in fact he is barely less liberal than the opposing democrat on certain issues.

53 posted on 01/29/2008 12:43:35 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Sideshow Bob; All

The Evangelicals have been a pox on the political process of this great nation since they assisted in the election of the Georgia Peanut Boy in ‘76. Let them go and say good riddance to trash.


54 posted on 01/29/2008 12:44:00 PM PST by britt reed (Any resemblance between what Mike Hucklebee says and the truth is purely coincidental.)
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To: ejonesie22

It also took a Carter to delay the defeat of communism, implement radical islamist rule in Iran, cause great humiliation to the USA in the hostage crisis and in other matters, and bring our economy to the brink of disaster.

As a patriot, I’d think you’d want to avoid these things.


55 posted on 01/29/2008 12:45:21 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: DannyTN
You blame Dobson for Fred’s loss, but the fact is, Fred ran a lousy campaign and thumbed his nose at the evangelicals.

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No, Fred thumbed his nose at Dobson. How did he thumb his nose at other evangelicals?

56 posted on 01/29/2008 12:45:29 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: britt reed

That’s ridiculous. Do you think “conservatism” has a chance without them, except in your head?


57 posted on 01/29/2008 12:47:00 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: MeanWestTexan
You seem to relish keeping the Republicans as a minority party. What exactly would that prove? I will vote for anyone the Republicans nominate, better half a loaf than none at all. At least we would have some influence on them, whereas with an Obama or Billary, we would have none at all.BTW I am what you would consider an “evangelical” conservative, and that doesn’t mean that I support James Dobson. I personally think he’s wrong. Just because you are an evangelical, doesn’t mean you’re a theocrate. There are a lot of us out there. The MSM has done a superlative job of painting us as wild-eyed, one issue voters. I am sure that there are some like that, most probably in the minority, I can assure you, the majority of evangelicals are not, and should not be written off by any Republican candidate.
58 posted on 01/29/2008 12:48:54 PM PST by Yankereb
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To: Squidpup
It’s Chuck Norris’s fault!

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Yes, and in response I will forever boycot all repeat episodes of Walker, Texas Ranger (no real loss - I've never actually watched that show) and pledge never to purchase his home gym system.

lol

59 posted on 01/29/2008 12:49:47 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Sideshow Bob
I count 44 total.

Conservative fears of repeating Florida 2000 helped Bush win reelection in 2004, despite the party's overall drift to the center. By now, any conservative elements in the House and Senate were in complete retreat. The moderates ruled the roost in both houses. RINO defections on the Iraq war (Mistake #28), wasteful earmarks (Mistake #29) and ethics scandals (Mistake #29) were now front and center for the GOP. The only conservative victories of 2005-06 were the confirmations of Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court. And it took a battle to defeat Bush on his nomination of Harriet Miers to do it.

60 posted on 01/29/2008 12:51:53 PM PST by pa_dweller (South of the border - a phrase fast losing its meaning)
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