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The Death of Conservatism? - 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice
Sideshow Bob | January 29, 2008 | Sideshow Bob

Posted on 01/29/2008 11:55:19 AM PST by Sideshow Bob

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To: Bryan24
I agreee with you. Dobson’s attack on Thompson was disasterous.

If I may...

I agree with you. Dobson’s attack on Thompson was disastrous. DISGUSTING!
181 posted on 01/29/2008 3:14:09 PM PST by papasmurf (No "Leftovers" for me. I'm votin' for Fred!)
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To: cowdog77; DannyTN
Hey, hey now....don’t be interjecting facts into this emotional issue!

You have an odd definition of "facts."

182 posted on 01/29/2008 3:15:18 PM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

Ok, Maybe Fred wouldn’t have had a say. It doesn’t matter. Fred said he wasn’t supportive of it. Which means he was against it. It hurt Fred big time in the eyes of the evangelicals.


183 posted on 01/29/2008 3:15:26 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ejonesie22

Well, you KNOW I agree with that. Who would you say is the correct “carter”...the Hildebeast, or the golden tongued, limited experience, socialist?


184 posted on 01/29/2008 3:16:06 PM PST by papasmurf (No "Leftovers" for me. I'm votin' for Fred!)
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To: dinoparty

I was shocked to hear Rush give this explanation a couple of days before.

I have listened to Rush for years and years, and he has ALWAYS said (rightly so, IMO), that “you NEVER WIN BY LOSING.”

But that’s exactly what he’s arguing for now. What a flip flop.

His argument that, at least with a Rat president, the Republicans in Congress could be “full-throated” in their opposition was okay; it was better than nothing. But, please, the answer to that is to change the culture of temerity in opposing the President when he’s wrong.

Yes, we do want some party order and decorum. But if the President is not doing what WE want-—for example, in a Supreme Court nomination (Meyers)-—then WE have to raise hell and OUR REPS have to raise hell. Even if they do so behind closed doors, blah blah blah. They have to stand up to the President even if he is from our party. What’s up with that?

Rush was right: you never win by losing. If the Republican president is wrong, the Republicans need to do whatever it takes to get him on the right path, including opposing him when necessary. But no way does the country come out ahead with a Rat president.

For one thing: just compare who ANY Rat will make Secretary of Defense compared to who ANY Republican will. Any questions?


185 posted on 01/29/2008 3:16:30 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: Sideshow Bob

Yes.


186 posted on 01/29/2008 3:17:48 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: DannyTN
It’s the fact that Fred wasn’t supportive of it at all. Fred wasn’t on the same page with us.

Who is "us", Kimo Sabe? I'm sorry, you don't speak for all evangelicals, especially not this one.

187 posted on 01/29/2008 3:18:31 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: NavVet

i think you are right and isn’t it sad that we have enough STUPID people in the Republican party for it to happen.


188 posted on 01/29/2008 3:19:12 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Oh, THAT worked the last time we tried it (8 years of Bill Clinton). He left no lasting damage upon the country or our future. /s


189 posted on 01/29/2008 3:19:19 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: Squantos; TheThirdRuffian; Jim Robinson
What do you think of a FreeRepublic primary wherein we agree to vote on a candidate and then back that person to the hilt? After that it's to emailing everybody we know.

There's no reason we can't stir up some energy with 100,000 FReepers doing that.

190 posted on 01/29/2008 3:20:45 PM PST by Carry_Okie (We have people in power who love evil.)
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To: DannyTN
Thompson didn’t thumb his nose at anybody. I’m an evangelical and I don’t know what you are talking about. Dobson’s attack was completely unprovoked and without merit.

Sadly, too many evangelicals did let the fact that Huckabee had a Bible in his hand blind them to the fact that he is exactly the kind of nanny-state socialist, that they would otherwise abhor. Not to mention his childlike grasp of national security issues.

As for making me consider voting Dem. If the Huckster gets the nod, I would be tempted.

191 posted on 01/29/2008 3:21:56 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: DannyTN
It hurt Fred big time in the eyes of the evangelicals.

By evangelicals, you mean evangelicals who are politically naive or who believe that style counts more than substance (i.e. RLA, DOMA vs. conservative Supreme Court Justices). I was evangelical before it was cool and I never took a shine to Mr. Mike. Perhaps too much experience with preachers who talk out of both sides of their mouths, yet they have no problem speaking sanctimoniously about minute differences, all the while ignoring their glaring lack of integrity.

192 posted on 01/29/2008 3:22:09 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Yankereb
better half a loaf than none at all

Yeah, a half a loaf today. And next time, another half of that half. And next time...

THAT'S where we are RIGHT NOW! That's how we got here.

No more halves!

No "Leftovers" for me. I'm votin' for Fred!



193 posted on 01/29/2008 3:22:54 PM PST by papasmurf (No "Leftovers" for me. I'm votin' for Fred!)
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To: the808bass

Fred caused hid own demise. I voted for him although I knew he had no chance.


194 posted on 01/29/2008 3:23:38 PM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: fatez

Hunter is a protectionist, so even he has a chink in the conservative armor.


195 posted on 01/29/2008 3:23:41 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Carry_Okie

Not much. FReepers are not that close together on anything or anyone.


196 posted on 01/29/2008 3:24:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: the808bass
"So, you're against the state's rights when it's one of your issues."

This issue is different, because the pressure will come on all states to conform once a few states begin.

Some things do need to be federalized. I'm in favor of adhering to the constitution. I'm against using federal matching funds to intefere in things that should be explicitly state rights. But there are things that need to be federalized that are not presently in the scope outlined for the federal government. And that does call for Constitutional amendments.

197 posted on 01/29/2008 3:24:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Sideshow Bob

I’ve never voted Democrat in my 48 years not about to start

Never have i been left with such a choice of Republicans that i can’t vote or support The so called Republicans running aren’t even close to being Conservastive at the best they are Democrat Lite !

I will not Embrace Socialism in my life or by the vote i guess my choice will be not to make a choice if i do that the choice is set ...


198 posted on 01/29/2008 3:24:45 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : A perpetuation of Lies Levied onto sheep to give up their Fleece)
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To: fightinJAG

What good would it do for Rush to spend 4 years bashing a Republican?

The GOP is drifting away to Liberalville and the GOP Establishment is kicked back and snoozing, enjoying the ride.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT A LIBERAL JUST BECAUSE HE IS LESS LIBERAL THAN CLINTON OR OBAMA.


199 posted on 01/29/2008 3:25:05 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sideshow Bob

I WILL NOT SUPPORT A LIBERAL JUST BECAUSE HE IS LESS LIBERAL THAN CLINTON OR OBAMA. I WILL STAND BY MY CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, WIN OR LOSE.

If you compromise your principles, then you didn’t have them to begin with.


200 posted on 01/29/2008 3:29:30 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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