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To: cogitator
Well, yes I do. And the data indicate a warming trend over the past 150 years, no matter how much you try to confuse the issue and avoid the question.

Maybe for the last 27 years. Steve McIntyre was reviewing the heat island effect and the data paint an interesting picture of the differences between rural and urban stations. There was a cooling period 27 years ago but the trend shows a fairly level trend for 117 years if you leave out the really big cities.

Trends in Peterson 2003


131 posted on 02/07/2008 6:58:39 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
McIntyre is still playing around with the raw data again.

In the figure below, I’ve calculated the average unadjusted temperature for actual cities,

First question that pops into my head reading this is: is there a reason that the "unadjusted" temperatures are preferable to the "adjusted" temperatures? Reading the article, my first impression is that the unadjusted temperatures are preferable to McIntyre because he can find trends in them and then cast aspersions on the adjustments because they remove the trends -- when maybe the reason for the adjustments (left unstated) is to remove spurious trends.

You can try all you want, but nature and the data indicate that it warmed up in the 20th century and its warming up faster now -- globally. You can't "adjust" when a lake thaws in the spring.


134 posted on 02/07/2008 7:53:32 AM PST by cogitator
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