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ABC Show Will Go on, Over Protest by Doctors (Episode claims immunization causes autism)
New York Times ^ | 29 January 2008 | By EDWARD WYATT

Posted on 01/28/2008 11:54:13 PM PST by bd476

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To: metmom

I agree with you..


101 posted on 01/29/2008 10:04:59 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: metmom
So, then what? Someone disagrees with a doctor’s diagnosis and who’s going to be believed?SECOND OPINION? There is more than just one doctor in this country...
102 posted on 01/29/2008 11:38:45 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: metmom
So, then what? Someone disagrees with a doctor’s diagnosis and who’s going to be believed?

SECOND OPINION? There is more than just one doctor in this country...

103 posted on 01/29/2008 11:39:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Will say this in AAM’s defense. Autism has received much more attention thus leading to more awareness by pediatricians and parents. This as led to many more children being tested and diagnosed. In the past, undiagnosed children were tragically shoved in the closet.


104 posted on 01/29/2008 11:44:48 AM PST by Hayzo
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Actually, we’re going for one (a specialist) for a second opinion. I don’t but the asthma diagnosis unless it’s done properly with something better.

It reminded me of using a store bought automatic blood pressure kit, the kind that always read ten points high.


105 posted on 01/29/2008 12:22:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RSmithOpt
This is my thinking as well regarding preservatives, convenience food etc.

It would be interesting to see records for the so called undeveloped or third world countries on autism figures as they tend to have a more high fibre and less processed food unless they live in an aid area and then we pumped them full of supplements etc.

106 posted on 01/29/2008 12:49:54 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: snugs

Snugs, serious....I am getting sick and tired of being lied too constantly....well, purposely deceived by our own government. It is amazing the depth the business world and the politicians conspire to always ‘create a new demand for something’; if not, they pass a law and force it upon us then to later issue a judge’s order to ‘seal the evidence’ in the case when the truth is about to come out of just what triggered ‘the failure’.


107 posted on 01/29/2008 1:02:23 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Which is the danger of private studies.

There is a lot of pressure to hid unsatisfactory results with so much money invested. The higher ups will refuse to believe that they just spent a lot of money for something they can’t sell.

See it in my industry as well (non pharma). And it is a very human reaction.

108 posted on 01/29/2008 2:39:30 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
There's no profit in vaccinations--which is why the Avian Flu is such a threat. To make vaccines we have to use 50-yr-old technology. The reason we don't have new technology is that pharmas won't invest it it because there is huge liability (all those floride nuts and anti-innoculation nuts) and no profit.

When the Avian Flu hits (and so far it is moving right along schedule), you'll get a front row seat in just how little capitalism there is in the making of vaccines. Governments have to produce them because private companies won't take the risk.

The anti-innoc crowd is so infuritatingly silly. If they had their way, they'd be spending a lot of time in an iron lung.

109 posted on 01/29/2008 2:47:58 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ouderkirk

Fine. Then you should pay for the upkeep of all those children damaged by vaccinations, such as my nephew. He was brain damaged by a DPT shot and at 24 years of age functions at a three year old level. He will never graduate, never read, never say Mommy again, never get married.


110 posted on 01/29/2008 2:55:57 PM PST by Politicalmom (I'm the aunt of a brand-new Naval Officer. I'm proud of you, Kristi.)
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To: bd476

This assertion maybe not be true....then again it could be.
There is too much protesting about it from the medical field.

They are stuck on the vaccinations as being safe for everyone. I’m just not too sure of that.

At 13 mos. old our oldest son started having seizures until we realized what was happening.
Then the Pediatrician took him off the pertussis. He had no seizures after that.

What if we had continued giving it him? No way to know.
But today he is a very educated man with a healthy body and mind.

Then he didn’t give his 3 children vaccinations until they started school.


111 posted on 01/29/2008 3:02:50 PM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Jesus is real, He will never fail...I will serve him now, and throughout all eternity! ))
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To: Pontiac
"As opposed to the communization of America perhaps?"

No, as opposed to the freedom-ization of America.

112 posted on 01/29/2008 3:30:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"The only proven fact here is that childhood vaccinations keep alive many children who used to die from a variety of illnesses."

There is not a shred of proof of that assertion, but there is a strong statistical link between sudden infant death, and the mandatory immunization cycle. Sudden death almost is shortly after initial immunizations.

113 posted on 01/29/2008 3:34:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Politicalmom

I’m sure that your sibling and spouse tried to do the right thing by their child and did not ask for their child to be struck with such and affliction, but you cannot empiracly prove that your nephew was directly damaged by this DPT immunization. It may in fact correlate to, when your nephew began to show symptoms. That’s it. If you could prove otherwise, we would not be having this conversation.

And even if there is a direct causation with the vaccine, the question becomes how many are going to show side effects? 1 or 2 per hundred thousand? Less? When does one accept the risk of being vaccinated versus the lives of the hundreds of thousands who may die as a result of these diseases who would not have died otherwise? Where does morality diverge from practicality?

I have considerable experience with Autistic children through my volunteer work with a group home for the disabled. All of whom have some form of Autism and always a second harsh disability. Some have it more severly than others. And even in the general population the application of a gaussian distrubution of the spectum of autism their will always be outliers who are the most severe or the most mild.

But these things happen to otherwise nice people. Nobody asks for it, it just happens.


114 posted on 01/29/2008 7:14:31 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Ouderkirk

My nephew began having seizures immediately after his shot.

It is disgusting for you vaccination zealots to dismiss these children who are harmed by vaccinations as being valueless.

I will NOT take that risk for my children,as I believe there is a genetic sensitivity involved. If you trust vaccinations so much, YOU vaccinate your children and leave mine and others’ children who may be sensitive ALONE.


115 posted on 01/29/2008 7:27:05 PM PST by Politicalmom (I'm the aunt of a brand-new Naval Officer. I'm proud of you, Kristi.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

“Except they have stopped using the mercury, and after the change the rates of autism continued to rise, indicating it was not the mercury.”

Don’t confuse these people with facts. It upsets them.


116 posted on 01/30/2008 4:09:01 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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