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To: Bigoleelephant
Crude childish comments aside, yours was a nice try but you were the one lumping all the years together and when that's the case, I agree with you (as long as the asterisk is firmly in place). But I was taking each year individually to determine who are the best teams for that particular season.

That point, which you apparently missed, was to point out that the Patriots* were not the Super Bowl quality team that they had hoped to be in 2006 so they identified where they needed help and they went out and found that help. Last year's team was missing a cylinder. Welker and Moss were the solution and the Patriots* should get credit for finding a relatively obscure player in Welker and giving him the opportunity to show what he is capable of doing. That is not saying that Welker was not a good player, he is very good. But the Patriots* payed him what he was worth to them at that point in time. Welker, through hard work and determination, proved that he's worth that and a whole lot more.

Unfortunately for him, he's still part of a team that was caught cheating and to have supposed conservatives and people of such supposedly high moral standards on this site railing against the Democrats and the Clintons yet defending Belichick* and his team is pretty sad and quite ironic.

74 posted on 01/29/2008 11:10:37 AM PST by FishTale
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To: FishTale
In case you've forgotten, my whole point was defending the Patriots as being one of the best teams in football. Not the best just one of them. I never said anything about a Super Bowl. I said one of the best teams. So let's take the year individually as you did. I said they were one of the best teams in football. The time frame was heading into the 2007 season. In 2006, which is the season before the 2007 one, they were in the AFC Championship game. How is being one of the last 4 teams standing not one of the best?

Your point has changed multiple times so how am I supposed to keep track of them all?

And assuming that I am defending Belichick(sp) is your final gaffe. Please show me once where I defended him? I have been debating your comments about Welker selling his soul which turned into semantics about the Patriots and their standing in the NFL which then turned into the Patriots not being the Super Bowl quality team that they had hoped to be in 2006 so they identified where they needed help and they went out and found that help.

So how did Welker sell his soul when he was traded to the Patriots before they were caught cheating? The original point had nothing to do with how good Welker was only that he sold his soul.

75 posted on 01/29/2008 11:41:42 AM PST by Bigoleelephant (Lawyers are to America what lead was to Rome.)
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To: FishTale
Wes Welker is a good receiver made better by being on a team loaded with top receiving talent and a very good QB. That's what so many people forget. There are a lot of "Wes Welkers" in the NFL, but they are often double-teamed. When defenses can't concentrate on one receiver, the pressure's off. Case in point: San Diego's Vincent Jackson became a beast after the Chargers picked up Chris Chambers from Miami. To be in the NFL, you have to be very good. Sometimes being 'elite' or a stand-out is a matter of being on the right team.

I still hate the Patriots.

86 posted on 01/30/2008 7:05:41 AM PST by Right Brother
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