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Mike Huckabee’s Big Mistake (with Evangelical voters)
Wordpress ^ | 1/26/08 | Doug Wead

Posted on 01/27/2008 6:44:24 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

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1 posted on 01/27/2008 6:44:27 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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What a bunch of B.S. Makes us seem like a bunch of lemmings.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 6:47:47 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: Mr. Brightside

Doug Wead is a man in the know. When he speaks, I listen.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 6:48:35 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Mr. Brightside
The Huckster has already insulted the thinking Evangelical base by pretending that he owns them, signing on with the global warming crowd and supporting Mexicanization of America with his buddy John McCain.

Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:

Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exculsions for the worst of the lot. And he unloaded his infamous temper on his mild-mannered senate colleague for having the audacity to introduce this amendment.

Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads, but it is an important message on a key vote which needs to get out.

4 posted on 01/27/2008 6:50:54 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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Actually, where Huckabee lost evangelicals like me was to run a campaign that reflected more Clinton than Christianity. Many of us wanted to support him, began following his campaign expecting to support him, and were supremely disappointed when we found out that he was falsely portraying himself as a conservative and trying to deceive people about his record as Governor. The lesson here is not what this article suggests, but rather if you want to rally the evangelical vote you need to have integrity and honesty, qualities in short supply in the Huckabee campaign.
5 posted on 01/27/2008 6:53:03 PM PST by coramdeo
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To: unspun

Ping


6 posted on 01/27/2008 6:53:36 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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“He went over the heads of the evangelical leaders of influence and talked directly to the people. “

He did the same thing with the Republican establishment, and with talk radio.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 6:54:01 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Okay Mittens, count me in!)
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Similar to saying that the Imams control the Mosques: Which is true, of course.* As a "mainstream" protestant (Lutheran) I only know from friends how evangelicals think and act, but it seems this individual knows whereof he speaks.


* Of course, I'm not saying Evangelical Christians are really like Muslims.

8 posted on 01/27/2008 6:54:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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I disagree. Bush won the nomination by going to the people, whatever the final tally was. The evangelicals voted for someone other than Huckabee for very simple reasons. They either a) didn’t like his positions on fiscal issues and crime/punishment and/or immigration, or b) they didn’t think he could win the nomination or the general election. It had little/nothing to do with who did or did not endorse him on the national stage of Evangelicalism.

Huckabee did get an endorsement by Dobson, though not official. It was an “he’s an ok candidate.” Which is all Dobson is handing out this year, I guess.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 6:55:37 PM PST by the808bass
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To: neodad
I find “Lemming” an apt description of anyone who would follow Huckabee off the cliff to unlimited illegal immigration, higher taxes, and subordinating the Constitution. In my opinion. Evangelical or not.
10 posted on 01/27/2008 6:55:48 PM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (nocrybabyconservatives))
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To: coramdeo

I think the author is stating that Huck lost a lot of Evangelical “talent” to other campaigns, long before the campaign got kicked off.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 6:56:18 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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“Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads, but it is an important message on a key vote which needs to get out.”

First time I saw it, so thanks.


12 posted on 01/27/2008 6:56:52 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Okay Mittens, count me in!)
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Whatever...


13 posted on 01/27/2008 6:57:37 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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his big mistake was thinking that he can win the GOP nomination by sounding like John Edwards


14 posted on 01/27/2008 6:58:32 PM PST by ari-freedom (the idea of Bill Clinton back in the White House with nothing to do is something I can’t imagine.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Hm. Not easy to tell how sarcastic the writer is, here, which is interesting. A bit Machiavellian of him (writer).

I suspect Gov. Huckabee wants to appeal to voters directly instead of being labeled “the moral majority guy.”

The same can be said of not trying to flirt up the talk show hosts.

15 posted on 01/27/2008 7:04:19 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter's man.)
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I think the author is stating that Huck lost a lot of Evangelical “talent” to other campaigns, long before the campaign got kicked off.

Somewhat, but I think he also thinks there are leaders who direct the evangelical herd and I disagree with that. I know that I and most of my friends who oppose Huckabee do not do so because of any of the people mentioned in the article - it is Huckabee's own lack of integrity and honesty that turned us off. Therefore, nothing any of the "talent" could have done would have made a difference - unless you are suggesting they could have convinced him to run an honest campaign.

16 posted on 01/27/2008 7:04:57 PM PST by coramdeo
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To: ari-freedom

He doesn’t propose anything like what nonsense John Edwards does.

He does understand that supporting corporatism is often at odds with a free market and opportunity society.

Heard about the drain of our means of production? (And, shhshshshsh... jobs? and income earning potentials?)


17 posted on 01/27/2008 7:06:04 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter's man.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
I think this is true in some respects. I do disagree with this: Four million evangelicals stayed home

OK, in 2000, the evangelicals stayed home, but not just because Bush distanced himself from the leaders.

A LOT of them stayed home because of the DUI.

I was on a church retreat the weekend before the election. The talk of the retreat was about how Bush had committed the "lie of omission" in hiding his DUI conviction. There was a LOT of comparisons to Clinton, and several people who were solid republican votes saying they would not be able to vote for him.

He survived anyway, barely. I voted for him.

18 posted on 01/27/2008 7:18:19 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I find Mike is the only practicing Christain in the race.
19 posted on 01/27/2008 7:28:52 PM PST by Tigen (Nothing new here)
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That may be true, but Mike also has some character issues that make people hesitant to trust him.


20 posted on 01/27/2008 7:33:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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