Phony, ignorant Christians

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 25, 2008 | Joseph Farah

[Presbyterian Reporter]

Paul warned us about times like this and the way people – including those claiming to be professing Christians – would act. I strongly believe Paul had in mind the kind of people who run major Protestant denominations like the United Methodist Church.

Today, at an event in Fort Worth, Texas, leaders of the denomination, which boasts membership by President Bush and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, will consider divesting from all companies that do business with Israel.

To say that even considering such an action is hateful, unbiblical, anti-Christian and evil would be an understatement.

It's not even understandable except in the context of the kind of morally blind apostasy described by Paul.

The problem with these people is not that they don't understand the Middle East. It is simply that they are no longer able to tell right from wrong. They are no longer able to distinguish between good and evil. They are no longer able to see the difference between freedom and tyranny. They are no longer able to judge between criminal and victim.

They have, in short, completely lost their moral bearings.

This is no longer a church; it is an organization of misguided political activism. This is no longer a house of God; it is a mad house. This is no longer part of the bride of Christ; it is a whore to the world.

I know these are tough words, for which I am sure to be criticized by some of my Christian friends.

For those pastors leading Methodist churches who understand where your denomination is heading, it's time to pack up and divest yourself of links to the denomination.

It's separation time.

[trek]

Perhaps the folks in the tents were right all along.

[Louis Foxwell]

Thank you for your testimony.
I was a UMC elder for 15 years. My ministry ended when my DS condemned me for having “a congregation of sheep who will follow you anywhere.” These were social outcasts, severely disabled, many mentally troubled people who the same DS said, “excluded the middle class.”
There was more, much more, said and done by ecclesiastical tyrants that convinced me that the church of my childhood and of my fathers no longer existed.
That was 20 years ago. The continued demise of the presence of Christ in the UMC has continued unabated. They have become a coven of worldly witches and warlocks bearing no resemblance to Christ.

[what's up]

You can't add Mormons to the list.

The Mormons differ from Orthodxx christianity in their beliefs about Christ.

[wardaddy]

i confess ignorance....i had to look some of those up

[wardaddy]

I’m learning.

[wardaddy]

They are close allies of the Jewish peoples

that's interesting.....I wonder how well that love is reciprocated?

[maine-iac7]

You can't add Mormons to the list. The Mormons differ from Orthodxx christianity in their beliefs about Christ

Oh, good grief. Not that old saw...

The Mormons worship Jesus as the Christ, the Redeemer, the Only Begotten Son of God -

I think GOD will decide if they are therefore Christians - not the stiff-necked amoung us who presume to speak for God...

CHRISTIAN:

1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.

2. of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ: Spain is a Christian country.

3. of or pertaining to Christians: many Christian deaths in the Crusades.

4. exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; Christlike: She displayed true Christian charity.

5. decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.

6. human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.

–noun 7. a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.

8. a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ: He died like a true Christian.

The Mormon's fit every above criteria - yet people still maintain they aren't Christian because they don't believe in the Trinity = which the earlier followers didn't either -

From the Church web site

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

[what's up]

Mormons believe that they will be gods one day. They do not believe that the Trinity has always been and always will be the only Deity .

Mormons are NOT Orthodox christians.

[angkor]

>>>>Mormons are NOT Orthodox christians.

They are what they are, but they are most certainly Christians.

Your point is made, now give it a rest.

[jmyrlefuller]

Israel is a land which refuses to acknowledge the Christ. It should be a CHRISTIAN nation, but instead the Christians have sold out to Zionist Jews.

[what's up]

They are what they are, but they are most certainly Christians.

Nonsense.

You obviously didn't read, or don't want to address how Mormons depart from Orthodox belief.

[aimhigh]

Mormons believe that they will be gods one day.

The original temptation now mascarades as a Christian religion.

[Uri’el-2012]

Israel is a land which refuses to acknowledge the Christ. It should be a CHRISTIAN nation, but instead the Christians have sold out to Zionist Jews.

30 posted on 01/27/2008 9:24:03 AM MST by jmyrlefuller

Israel and Jerusalem belong to YHvH.

YHvH has given His Land to His Chosen People.

You would know that if you were familar with Elohim's Word.

I strongly urge you to read Paul's writings to the Romans.

Particularly chapters 9 - 11.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua

[joebuck]

"It is simply that they are no longer able to tell right from wrong. They are no longer able to distinguish between good and evil."

Satan is crafty and knows the greatest temtation is in man's pride. His greatest lie and temptation in the garden was that man could be like God and decide for himself what was right and wrong.

"For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

[angkor]

Yeesh, pointless to say anything else.

[what's up]

Yes, pointless because you know it's true.

Mormons do not believe in the tenets of Orthodox christianity.

[donna]

Excellent column.

[donna]

Yes, it’s good to use “(snip)” to indicate missing text.

[angkor]

>>>>>>>Yes, pointless because you know it’s true. Mormons do not believe in the tenets of Orthodox christianity.

No, pointless because it’s obsessive and irrelevant nitpicking in the greater scheme of things.

You want to debate it in church (by the way, why aren’t you there now), then go right ahead. That’s the appropriate place.

I refer you to Article VI of the Constitution, and if that’s too much for you then I’ll end with this: we are voting for the President Of The United States Of America, not for a theocratic leader or a Bishop Of America.

Take it where it belongs.

[schu]

Agree completely. In my brief study it seems like every significant evil of the world: fascism, socialism, communism, Islamism is the result of man thinking they are God. When you see this happen, turn and run as fast as you can ...

schu