Posted on 01/27/2008 5:53:09 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
I think there is a remnant in most churches but if the individual church one attends is preaching “crapola” then it’s time to get out. But, then again, there were some strong letters sent to the churches in Revelation. I wonder what kind of letters would be written now - probably very similar.
That is so true. I don’t think a lot of people know that’s why so many went into “divinity schools” back in the day.
Really? You don't? Who says?
Dance harder. . .I'm still not buying the Mormon spin.
And.... just where did the Angels, Seraphim, Cherubim, etc. all come from?
According to scripture all things were created by Jesus (who, of course, is God).
The heavenly host have been there with God, forever.
That might be what Mormons believe. It's not what Christians believe.
Isn’t that the once saved always saved philosophy of men?
Don't think so.
that’s ok dear....LMS are about the cat’s pajamas insofar as non-apostate
they are a good benchmark to strive for from what I’ve seen
you write well but are still dancing
you throw stones precisely
so let’s have a precise answer:
what are you?
Thank you.
I love what you say - I had a similar experience with the Episcopal Church: we werent in the right income bracket and it was all about treating God as a fashionable thing to do.
You can allegorize Revelation, dismiss Romans 11:25, ignore the Lord’s promise to a teenage girl that her Son would sit on the “throne of David” (where’s that supposed to be, Salt Lake?), and for that matter dismiss the entire OT.
Israel is back in the land. That’s a miracle. More to come, film at 11.
As my moniker would indicate I am a Christian that, along with the Roman Catholic Church, that holds the view of natural law set forth by Thomas Aquinas, particularly in his Summa Theologica, and often as filtered through the School of Salamanca. I believe human beings to consist of body and mind, the physical (body)and the non-physical (soul), and that the two are inextricably linked. Humans are capable of discerning the difference between good and evil because they have a conscience. To know what is right, one must use one's reason and apply it to Aquinas' precepts. This reason is believed to be embodied, in its most abstract form, in the concept of a primary precept: "Good is to be sought, evil avoided." St. Thomas explains that:<> "there belongs to the natural law, first, certain most general precepts, that are known to all; and secondly, certain secondary and more detailed precepts, which are, as it were, conclusions following closely from first principles. As to those general principles, the natural law, in the abstract, can nowise be blotted out from men's hearts."
In short I believe that the "Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge" is the ability to differentiate between good and evil. That presupposes that there exists a universal good, embodied in Christ, that is as much a part of the human soul as original sin. The ability to recognize and pursue the universal good exists without the need for an elite priest class or complex theological arguments.
“However, God did NOT make man to be Deity.”
Man in the flesh.
Now, when you go to heaven, you will no longer be a mortal man.
If we all will be taken up into heaven to be with God forever, and ever, what will we be doing for infinity?
“According to scripture all things were created by Jesus (who, of course, is God).”
Is Jesus a God?
Jesus said, “you will do all the things I have done, and more”.
This was in reference to his ‘miracles’.
Whatcha think he meant?
Where in the world did you get that belief that there are many ways to God? I think you need to read the Bible a lot more.
My professor and counselor had been a Hitler Youth (forest camp kid....lebens-something) who embraced Catholicism later.
Natural Law makes me think of Locke though I value Hobbes most probably in that gang.
I’m Southern baptist but have Catholics in the family and I like to attend Charismatic on occasion....I like their politics too.
But even this line of reasoning presents problems. When, on the cross, Christ said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me," that statement pretty much conflicts with the three points I highlighted in your statement. Christ wasn't just mouthing lines in a play when he said that. He was sincere, and truly, God did forsake him for that brief period of time. I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding that, let alone, accepting it.
For God to truly be righteous, it is something that had to be done to the one who paid the price for our sins, and it is profound beyond imagination.
God's ways, are not our ways, and I think we tend to deem ourselves a bit too important when we think we can understand the nature of God, let alone sum it up in a few sentences.
No Christians that I know of dismiss the Old Testament.
The problem for Christian Zionists/dispensationalists, however, is that they have myopia when it comes to Bible study — they cherry pick verses in the Bible and apparently dismiss others (forgetting that Scripture never contradicts Scripture). I believe you just gave a good example of that — interpreting Romans 11:25 in a way that makes it contradict Romans 9.
I think if you would pray for understanding and read Scripture in light of Scripture, then you would realize that the modern state of Israel is not a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
No, you will be an IMMORTAL man, (not Deity).
what will we be doing for infinity?
I don't know, but if you're in Heaven it will certainly be all good. No need to worry about that now. God moves us forward by faith now; He will bring us to fulfillment then when we'll be found completely in Christ.
That's such a crock.
We make judgments everyday.....
That particular scripture that you are apparently referring to...gets messed up and misquoted all the time.
Used much by the left and the uninformed to turn a blind eye to inappropriate behavior, and life-styles.
The actual scripture was speaking to those that might be involved in the same exact thing they are judging someone else for.
It's perfectly fine to judge others..and to attempt to counsel them, help them. But NOT if you are doing the SAME THING THEY ARE.
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