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Killer Dolphins Baffle Marine Experts
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 25/01/2008 | Nigel Blundell

Posted on 01/26/2008 11:58:30 AM PST by DogByte6RER

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To: tcrlaf

LOL!!! That was one strange movie.


81 posted on 01/27/2008 2:09:33 AM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: 31R1O

That explains a lot. LOL!!!


82 posted on 01/27/2008 2:11:56 AM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: Perdogg

LOL!!! GO HALLIBURTON GO!!! LOL!!!


83 posted on 01/27/2008 2:13:02 AM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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Dear Nigel,

I was going to say I was shocked by your repeated use of the word “murder,” but I’m really not, since you’re an idiot. I mean, as a writer for the Telegraph, I didn’t expect much to begin with, but I was still somewhat amazed by your stupidity.

First off, the vast majority of these attacks were against another species, so it was probably territorial, but who knows for sure, SINCE THEY’RE WILD ANIMALS! The only thing that you can know for sure about a wild animal is that it will act like a wild animal, no matter how much you try to anthropomorphise it.

And on that note, getting back to your repeated use of the word “murder.” Murder is a legal term. Until you can find me bona fide proof of a “Dolphin Legal System” please limit your use of the word. Again, these are wild animals. They may be bright, friendly (for the most part) and look like they’re smiling (because that’s the way their mouth is shaped), but that doesn’t give them the ability to develop the concept of laws and “murder.” But then again, being human (allegedly, in your case) doesn’t seem to have given you the ability either.

Mark


84 posted on 01/27/2008 2:39:29 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Defiant
The ones that beach themselves just can’t take the violence anymore and do it as a protest.

If only the leftist war protesters would follow the fine example of our fine mammalian friends!

Mark

85 posted on 01/27/2008 2:41:39 AM PST by MarkL
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To: DogByte6RER

And there it is in a nutshell in that link you posted. We should send it to the marine experts...


86 posted on 01/27/2008 2:54:50 AM PST by NTW64 (...)
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To: DogByte6RER
It's hard to visualise but the intelligent and ever-friendly dolphin can also be a determined killer.

Why is it so hard? They are large, intelligent predatory hunters - not meek little vegetarians! Maybe these “experts” watched too many episodes of “Flipper”?

87 posted on 01/27/2008 3:07:56 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: BlazingArizona

They need Midnight basketball!


88 posted on 01/27/2008 3:14:05 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: max americana

Islamic dolphins?


89 posted on 01/27/2008 3:15:54 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: DogByte6RER
It reminds me when Jane Goodall observed a “war” between two rival groups of chimps. As I recall the story, she witnesses some chimps chase down and kill another chimp.
90 posted on 01/27/2008 3:56:24 AM PST by redheadtoo
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To: brityank; BIGLOOK

Oh, so the orca (killer whale) is actually a dolphin. I am fascinated by cetaceans, and other marine mammals, and love to learn about them.

Still, as Big Look says, there is much about them that remains mystery.


91 posted on 01/27/2008 9:59:27 AM PST by La Enchiladita (I'm on the Mitt-Mobile!!!)
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To: La Enchiladita; BIGLOOK
Still, as Big Look says, there is much about them that remains mystery.

You know, here we have living right next door to Humanity a group of intelligent beings that have a language and a society for us to investigate and experience, and we treat them like dogs and cats and teach them tricks. We also have many groups of scientists and supporters spending time and treasure planning and looking in the heavens for "the first signs of 'intelligent' life".

Who's playing with who?

92 posted on 01/27/2008 10:39:55 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

When it comes to wild animals, I simply enjoy and respect them. I am always thrilled to spot a pod of dolphins from the shore. However, I would not be so dim-bulbed as to “swim with the dolphins.” Nor do I want to see them swimming in a tank and doing “tricks.”

Speaking of wildlife, a hummingird is nesting in a tree branch outside my window for the second time this season. I think she laid her eggs yesterday.

I interviewed several sources for an article I once wrote re dolphins and sea lions, found that amazingly little research was being done re the Pacific bottlenose dolphin.


93 posted on 01/27/2008 10:50:27 AM PST by La Enchiladita (I'm on the Mitt-Mobile!!!)
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To: brityank; La Enchiladita
You know, here we have living right next door to Humanity a group of intelligent beings that have a language and a society for us to investigate and experience, and we treat them like dogs and cats and teach them tricks.

Be careful assigning sentient intelligence to whales and dolphins on a par with humans. Inter group communications are common in pack or herd animals and are often unique within the group. Signaling does not equate to language though meaning can be intuited from it.

In all the years of studying whales and dolphins,no phonetic system, no syntax and no vocabulary has been determined........nor have they caught on to ours beyond simple commands.

Since we have been able to teach them 'tricks' indicates rudimentary intelligence and perhaps even problem solving abilities, like "How to get food'. It maybe the case that each pod has its own signaling system such that recordings retransmitted to other pods are meaningless.....other than to alert them to a nonexistent intruder to their territory.

Who's playing with who?
94 posted on 01/27/2008 12:20:52 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: BIGLOOK; La Enchiladita

Precisely my point; we are all limited by our own experiences and environment. That equates to Human-only interaction and a land-based society. I doubt that Early Man had much more than those same signaling type communications that eventually developed into the plethora of languages and meanings we have today.

True; but how long have we really spent in that study, and how is it done? While Man can go into the water, he can't live there without vast external support, nor can he stay in the water for extended (~24 Hours plus) stays without severe physical degradation.

Much the same as taking an Aborigine and dropping him into Queens, or one from NYC into the Amazon. I suspect the Aborigine would survive better and longer. :^)

The basic gist of the story is that we look at the rest of the animal kingdom from our own views, and the seeming revulsion at dolphins killing others and other species, when in fact those are Human values that have little relationship to survival in their environments. I recall that Jane Goodall made a big deal out of the killing of one of 'her' monkeys by others in the tribe -- again casting human values on them. I don't believe that we will ever be able to have any viable communication with other earthly species, because there is no evidence of any reasoning ability for future activities; yet we still have folks trying to set "The Dolphin Murders" documentary as viable scientific proof that those dolphins must have it.

95 posted on 01/27/2008 4:59:12 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Defiant

The ones that beach themselves just can’t take the violence anymore and do it as a protest.”

Peacenik Dolphins? Liberal Dolphins?


96 posted on 01/27/2008 5:07:24 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: DogByte6RER

It’s been fun, reading this thread and seeing conservatives’ sarcastic reaction to liberal bemusement on dolphin misbehavior. Dolphins engage in cruelty and violence, liberals analyze and conservatives joke.


97 posted on 01/27/2008 10:39:33 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: dynachrome; ASOC

” Along Scotland’s East Coast and in America off the beaches of Virginia...”


98 posted on 01/27/2008 11:15:06 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bill1952

I think someone should contact PETA and ask them to set up anger-management and self-esteem classes for these killer dolphins.


99 posted on 01/28/2008 8:06:01 AM PST by Bigg Red (Thank you, Duncan Hunter. Your loss is America's loss.)
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To: george76; pcottraux

Thanks george.


100 posted on 01/28/2008 11:59:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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