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Breaking Up Is Hard to Do ("Bush Destroyed the Republican Party" -- Drudge Headline)
WSJ.com ^ | Jan 25, 2008 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/26/2008 5:57:27 AM PST by fightinJAG

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To: Leisler

Like the Lincoln that most Republicans admire, Rush is self-educated. He can be repetitious because he has to explain positions ad nauseum to the sheeple. Reagan tried that approach too with some success. I lost interest in the program in 2005, when he seemed to be a defender of GWB and the RNC even as they were adopting ruinous policies. Sometimes I listen some to M. Savage now.


41 posted on 01/26/2008 6:17:46 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

For some reason I’ve yet to figure out, Reagan named the “anti-Reagan” (GHWB) to be his VP and other Bush people to positions of great power. He also kept the advisors who convinced him to sign the “Therapeutic Abortions” bill, while Governor of Kalifornia.

It is way past time we figured out and concentrated on what we have, and must have, in common. We must find leaders that feel, and have felt that way also, instead of taking whatever candidates the GOP establishment and the media choose for us.


42 posted on 01/26/2008 6:18:12 AM PST by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: mewzilla

Duncan Hunter certainly doesn’t think so.


43 posted on 01/26/2008 6:18:32 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: counterpunch

I think Reagan was more than just a flash in the pan. His commitment to reducing marginal tax rates from 70% to 30% or so and to supply side economics (people responding to incentives) has had long lasting effects not just in the US but elsewhere.
Except for that observation, post #14 is spot on.


44 posted on 01/26/2008 6:18:52 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: fightinJAG

The flaw in GWB is that he has left a “base” that practically no longer exists and is totally demoralized. And he has procured no Democrat support to replace that base, as he apparently sought to do.


45 posted on 01/26/2008 6:19:35 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: fightinJAG
BS. Bush is not responsible for the behavior of people like Mark Foley, Abramoff and Weldon, but Bush sure is a convenient whipping boy isn't he? He's not even allowed credit for the tax cuts we enjoy, for us not having been attacked again since 9/11/01, for dropping federal funding of fetal stem cell research, dropping federal funding for abortions worldwide, trying to protect the sanctity of marriage...nothing. He is allowed NO credit whatsoever. He's the DEFINITION of "damned if you do and damned if you don't".

I am sure the one-trick borderbots who will disagree, though they don't help fight for the fence that the government is still fighting envirowackos in court to get built.

46 posted on 01/26/2008 6:20:21 AM PST by cake_crumb (Even if you're unable to FIGHT to save your country, you CAN vote to save it.)
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To: Maine Mariner

I imagine the Reagan as “flash-in-the-pan” stems from his two poor Supreme Court nominations, one of which was practically an outright shill for liberals.


47 posted on 01/26/2008 6:20:26 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: cake_crumb

A lot of middle-income persons saw very little tax relief, as the taxes are so high as the “cut” was not observed otherwise.


48 posted on 01/26/2008 6:21:19 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The chief problem of American political life...has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

~Carroll Quigley, ‘Tragedy and Hope’


49 posted on 01/26/2008 6:21:34 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: David Isaac

Good point, apparently some of the Reagan advisors convinced him he needed a “moderate” Republican (GHWB) to hold the liberal Republican segment of the party — to keep it from defecting even more to John B. Anderson of liberal IL. He had already tapped a “moderate” at best in 1976 — Richard Schweiker.


50 posted on 01/26/2008 6:23:05 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: saganite
Yeah ... it’s becoming Democrat light - afraid of standing up for what is right, being intimidated and NO BACKBONE to educate folks on what is right.
51 posted on 01/26/2008 6:23:21 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Bushbacker1

Peggy Noonan is jealous. She used to write speeches for Reagan and has not been employed by W. And her writings are not that logical anymore. Peggy Noonan is a sour grapes Republican.


52 posted on 01/26/2008 6:23:27 AM PST by abclily
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To: Non-Sequitur

Country Club Blue Bloods are destroying it (in their effort of marginalizing the conservative base). That is why we are left with RINOs ... and a pretty bleak outlook for the house and governor races this year as well.

The party is in shambles ... in dire need of $$$ and volunteers for 2008 ... the Country Club Blue Blood will show what they are good at ... ensuring the Republicans become a minority party again.


53 posted on 01/26/2008 6:24:53 AM PST by bluebeak
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To: cake_crumb

You bring up some legitimately good things, but let’s be honest- those tax cuts were a joke, and Bush never framed them as WAY too small. He never pushed for anything deeper either, nor did he suggest we cut spending- quite the contrary.


54 posted on 01/26/2008 6:25:00 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: fightinJAG

The pro Illegal immmigrant pro al queda RINO Peggy Noonan supports McAniac and Huckaphony.


55 posted on 01/26/2008 6:25:31 AM PST by johna61
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To: Rush4U

There is enough blame to go around. Certainly Bush did everything possible to ruin the GOP...as did his father but look at what we have in the House and Senate...fill in the blanks!
Absolutely no leadership!


56 posted on 01/26/2008 6:25:44 AM PST by rrrod
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To: nmh

Both Noonan and Limbaugh are correct. Noonan: George W. Bush fractured the party. Limbaugh: The election of McCain or Huckabee will split the conservatives from the Republicans and put an end to the Reagan Revolution once for all.


57 posted on 01/26/2008 6:26:03 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Past Your Eyes
Wasn’t Rush that had the ass problem? The drug problem? The multiple divorces? Can El Fatso fly a plane?( I like people that pilot, it seems to weed out idiots, like JFK, Jr. ) Even he admits other than the show, he’s been a failure all his life.
58 posted on 01/26/2008 6:26:07 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Rush4U
I get really disgusted by the lies I see people post on him. Outright lies. What they really do’t like is that he is a Mormon. I’m not thrilled about that but surprisingly he’s closest to Biblical PRINCILES than the humanist, Mike HUckabee. Mikes a humanist that preaches socialism.

I remember JFK, got in there and he was CATHOLIC! OH MY!!! I’m not Catholic, and we didn’t turn CATHOLIC. He didn’t preach at us to convert or else! Neither will Mitt.

News for Christians that are really BIGOTS:

Prayer works wonders. We’ll be praying for Mitt to become a Christian. I won’t post lies because he’s a Mormon. But I will pray he becomes a Christian - he’s a good man and has a wonderful family.

59 posted on 01/26/2008 6:27:16 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Leisler
Can El Fatso fly a plane?( I like people that pilot, it seems to weed out idiots, like JFK, Jr. )

ouch! dude that's brutal! haha

60 posted on 01/26/2008 6:30:12 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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