[incindiary]

DO, you didn't answer a lot of the specific questions I asked. I don't like to jump to other questions when my questions aren't answered.

Also, either you misunderstood or you are misrepresenting my position. I never said that we should not go to war or take military action when necessary. I mentioned the just war doctrine, which I agree with Paul on, so when military action is just, then yes, absolutely we should do it. Your post made it sound like you were replying to someone who said war is never justified. That's not what I said.

And no, I don't think it's all about nation building. I think there are many factors, but as I said - I'm not allowed to debate the war, I was told that doing that means being on thin ice and possible banning.

I can see that you have accepted everything you were told, and as you said to me, I also think you are well-intentioned. But have you ever thought that maybe you were lied to or given misleading information? Let me put it this way - can you at least admit that it is within the realm of possibility that our leaders lie sometimes, or mislead people as to the reasons behind their actions? Or do you think they never do that?

And btw... I thought you knew this, but I'm not a guy. When you called me 'bud', I got the feeling you thought I was male. ;-) No worries though, it has happened before, I guess its my screenname. I wish we could debate more openly, but as I said, I do not want to be yet another statistic here.

[Bogie]

Sometimes it's something as simple as a bribe. Not much more complicated than that. 30 pieces of silver or "parecido."

Anyhow to the casual observer things sometimes look rather illogical.

[FReepapalooza]

“Also, either you misunderstood or you are misrepresenting my position. I never said that we should not go to war or take military action when necessary. I mentioned the just war doctrine, which I agree with Paul on, so when military action is just, then yes, absolutely we should do it. Your post made it sound like you were replying to someone who said war is never justified. That’s not what I said.”

I truly wish people would check the facts for themselves instead of jumping on the bandwagon with some posters that apparently have never read any of the candidate’s platform.

I find the results of the last couple of FR polls appalling. To think that a “majority” of the responders would “just vote” for Guiliani or McCain, after all we have been through with the threat of amnesty at our doorstep, just saddens me.

This may be our last chance to use “OUR VOICE”. Together, we can do it, just like we did with the amnesty bill. Writing in someone who is not even running is throwing your voice away.

It would be worth it if only to see “exactly what” the established power does in the face of not getting their “chosen one”.