Posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:14 AM PST by Froufrou
Here is another point for your well written list.
9) Having one of these strains of HPV means a religious dedication to quarterly OB GYN checkups costing a couple hundred a visit, even if a young, childless woman. The operation to remove a possibly cancerous polyp from the cervix due to these strains of HPV is a procedure where a doctor enters vaginally and uses a device to remove and cauterize the affected area of the cervix. The procedure costs in the neighborhood of $4,000, require anestesia, takes a day in the hospital plus recovery time nearing a week, does not gurantee that you won’t be repeating said procedure many times in the future, creates a long period of time where spotting and other menstrual issues do occur.
Frankly, yes. The vaccine also will protect against several forms of genital herpes/warts...like HPV, a virus. . The trouble with getting all righteous is that a virus, once contracted, never goes away-- like syphillus or gonorhea goes away with antibiotics.
I don't know if it ought to be mandatory, but I recommend vaccinating your young daughters. You never know what dirty creeps they'll be encountering later in life.
Males can be vaccinated, too! They are carriers.
"I want to be one less!"
As I understand it the type of cervical cancer that is prevented by Gardasil is passed through sex.
They makers of Gardasil, and the commercial, are unwilling to tell teen girls that if they don't have sex they won't get this type of cancer and they don't need Gardasil. Instead they have pre-teens tugging at our emotions, "they need this drug."
I cringe every single time I see it. And to me it even seems that some of the females shown have these nasty little smirks on their faces.
I don’t know of any OB/GYN who recommends quarterly pap smears for anyone except hookers.
No, he didn't sign legislation, he issued an executive order. That's one reason it was so controversial. The legislature slapped him down on this issue.
Abstinence will prevent it.
No the Texas legislature tore him a new one on this issue.
Last year, Virginia was the only state out of two dozen considering a mandate to go through with it after concerns were raised over the vaccine's safety and protests from conservatives and parents who said requiring it promotes promiscuity.Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered the shots for girls there, but lawmakers overrode him. More than a dozen states opted instead for laws that either provided more funding for the vaccination or required schools to hand out educational materials about it.
Those are good questions — things that can be followed-up on. Unlike pseudo-statistical stories like this one.
“I wanna be one less”
“I wanna be one less”
“They are really going after young girls!”
I can’t believe they are giving this to 9 year old girls like the advertisement advises!!!
Unless they remain a virgin and the man they marry bring it into the relationship. Or if he cheated.
Thankfully, those things never happen, so the vaccine is useless. Right?
Got it! Thanks! I’ve already gone back and read the original story about Perry.
Granted OB/GYN’s are far from consistent. So for fun I have to speculate that either you know a lot of OB/GYN’s or a lot of hookers. Or possibly just good communication with one of each. Actually I guess one OB/GYN who was also a hooker could speculate on this.
But if you knew someone who had to have part of their cervix removed because it might be cancerous, well you would know one more person who maybe could weigh the economic impacts of quarterly visits as well.
I guess my point is, and it should be obvious, and you probably got it, is if you happen to become convinced the conspiracy about making money is predicated on the outcome that the vaccine will actually work, and a tin foil hat blocking the FR cynic rays allows you to believe it is effective. Don’t avoid it on a financial argument alone. The cost of treatment, even if only in the prevention of HPV related cervical cancer can be significantly more than $320.
Personally, I think this debate quickly gets childishly focused on virginity and monogamy when actually it won’t be too long before someone pulls their head out and realizes the infection rates don’t match the pathology of something that is only transmitted sexually. A lot of folks will then have to re-evaluate their position on the cost and risk proposal of this vaccine if they have to get rid of the “if my little angel only stays a virgin she won’t get sick.” argument.
— lates
The drug is being marketed heavily as a way to protect young girls. There are many parents who will buy into it because they want to protect their little girls from harm. They’re not being told how girls get the HPV virus, only that vaccinating their girls will keep them from getting cervical cancer. If they don’t have a talk with their girls about early and indiscriminate sexual activity, no vaccine in the world is going to help, because they’re exposing themselves to much worse than HPV. But Merck will still haul in the money earned on capitalizing on the fears of parents and girls.
I'm not sure I get your point. Vioxx should never have been pulled from the market; I read the studies and there is a tiny, tiny risk present. To deprive patients who need that therapy from choosing whether or not they're willing to put themselves at (tiny) risk is insane.
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