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To: Quix
Hey, Quiz....

Nuclear War...Black Holes...UFOs.....Not on Easter Sunday!!! LOL!

370 posted on 03/24/2008 2:30:32 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot; All

LOL.

I was enjoying myself a bit much, I guess. I love ferreting out interesting stories, hypotheses, puzzle pieces . . . And, I have a bias hat given our limited knowledge . . . it’s difficult to ARBITRARILY AHEAD OF TIME decide what is and is not real. Pharoah decided he knew what was real. God showed him otherwise rather dramatically and emphatically.

Besides, I enjoy collecting puzzle pieces. It’s been a hobby for . . . 45+ years. Grew out of my scifi interest.

A FREEPER kindly sent me the following. My reply is below:

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I like the UFO community as much as the next guy, but do you ever read an article like this and go “WT_?” Either this borders on insanity/delusional pyscobabble or we are in deep ______.

How do you rationalize the fact that for 60+ years that entire monolithic cabal has not been leaked, decieved, breached, etc. even when the A-bomb, WWII plans, Iraq invasion plans and every other secret thing has been compromised along the way?

There was not one person who felt a responsibility to humanity, death bed confession, remorse for decieving the entire human civilization? Our government can keep their dicks in their pants long enough to complete a single senatorial term, but they can perpetrate the greatest deception on humankind since Eve in the Garden?

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I’m going to reply in the thread as follows quoting part of your thing anonymously . . .

1. There’s plenty of insane craziness in government, in the NWO, in the UFO field etc. God only knows where the insanity starts and stops and incredible Alice-in-Wonderland convoluted reality starts and stops.

2. Even modern physics is full of Alice’s turf.

3. I really do believe that when the dust settles after Armageddon . . . THE MATRIX, Alice’s rabbit hole and a host of science fiction fantasies will all have turned out to have been

HYPER CONSERVATIVE, MUDANE, DRAB, ANEMIC

compared to the reality the world and the Christians have gone through and/or witnessed.

4. Men’s hearts will fail them for fear as Scripture says because of fearful things but also that a good deal of the fearful things are just sooooooooooooooooooo outside of any conceptualizing . . . that fearsome losing total grip is their ownly recourse.

5. I think some of that is one of the reasons the Oligarchy has kept such a tight grip. Too many clueless folks are too given to going off the deepend with NORMAL reality! LOL.

6. The issue of how can such things be kept secret is a straw dog, to me.

A) Incredible secrets have been kept for a long time. Some WWII secrets are still successfully kept. Stanton Friedman’s website answers that issue well. He cites a thing or two that no hint had escaped about until the last 5-10 years.

B) There have been death bed confessions of the globalist oligarchy and even earlier more dangerous such . . . I read plenty beginning in 1965 in my job as acting Director of the university Special Collections dept.

C) Some folks died for their disclosures. But all such disclosures never saw much light of day except in fringe groups. The Oligarchy has been fairly effective at keeping it out of their heavily controlled main stream media for 50-200 years . . . some say more.

D) That and the fringe groups’ record in earliest and most accurately predicting who Hitler was and what he would do is one reason I bother with them at all. They are an early warning system.

E) Sure sorting out the data from the fly specks is a very difficult job . . . but . . . one collects puzzle pieces and waits on God to highlight this or that . . . waits on sime similar puzzle pieces to collect together from very diverse sources . . . waits to see what is fulfilled when . . . or disproved . . . etc.

7. The world IS in super deep doodoo and heading literally to hell at a faster and faster rate. And satan has convinced the ruling globalist oligarchy that Almighty God is merely another variety of ET that satan and the oligarchy will defeat at Armageddon. Satan knows better but it’s a grand way to take lots of humans with him to hell. He loves that. Loving evil is the only kind of love he has left.

8. I increasingly feel that we reallllllllly have only begun to see dramatic, hard to conceive of things. We ain’t seen nuthin yet compared to what’s coming down the pike. George Lucas et al will turn out to have been unimaginative slackards when reality out does their wildest fantasies.

9. Buckle seat belts and hold tightly to God. Better, sink deep in HIS FIRM GRIP with a heart of loving obedience to His desires and priorities.

10. That’s the most loving, exciting, enduring way to survive and prosper . . . . the most fun . . . and the ONLY way to get out of all this alive—in Eternal LIfe. and that exceedingly abundant.

11. Scripture is clear that man has not conceived of the wonders God has prepared for those who Love Him.

12. Even Arthur C Clark asserted that

The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it’s stranger than we CAN imagine. —Sir Arthur C. Clark

Thanks for your kind query.

The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it’s stranger than we CAN imagine Sir Arthur C. Clark


371 posted on 03/24/2008 7:53:40 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DCPatriot; ActionNewsBill; AFreeBird; airborne; albertp; ALASKA; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; ...
Try the following on for size . . . there have been persistent reports of the following sort for decades . . . Note. I did not operationalize all the links. Go to the source to click on the links.

ATS thread:

Here http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/AllNewArticles/Tunnelsandshuttles.htm

INCLUDES REF TO a 1978 LA times article etc RAND CORP . . .

RAND CORP. DOCUMENTS SUPPORTED CREATION OF 14,000 MPH U.S. TUBE-SHUTTLE NETWORK

Many individuals claiming to have seen Reptoids also report that they saw human scientists and/or military personnel present at the scene of their encounter. These experiencer observations indicate that at least one or two rogue or sanctioned intelligence groups are acting in unison with the Reptilian-Humanoid culture.

[QUIX note. Some Bible scholars insist that in the original Hebrew, the snake in the garden and similar refs actually referred to speaking bi-pedal reptoid humanoids. Sometimes I wonder if the Revelation etc mention of 'beasts' refers to some such sort of creatures.]

Since most black budget scientific-military projects are conducted from hidden, subterranean command centers, it makes research sense to cross reference Reptoid sightings with known or suspected secret underground scientific-military installations.

This is why, for many years, the Reptoids Research Center has been promoting public awareness of Reptilian-Humanoid (Reptoid) cryptids, underground tunnels, advanced tunneling technologies, and secret corporate-military underground bases.

Government whistleblowers and retired military personnel have publicly stated that during their employment they observed that our government has a massive network of tunnels, with super velocity trains, linking secret underground bases. (Thomas Castello, the former Dulce Base security officer, reported to an associate that Dulce had a tube-shuttle station linked to several other secret underground bases.)

At first hearing, these statements seem too far-out to be true. We've all seen television shows about tunnels and they always show how expensive, dangerous, and disastrous near-surface tunnel construction can be. So, obviously an undertaking such as constructing a massive, sci-fi-like network of underground tunnels would take too much money and hundreds of years to build! NOT SO, say scientists!

In 1972, Robert M. Salter, lead scientist with the Rand Corporation, announced during an interview with LA Times science writer George Getz, that a high speed system could be built using existing (1972) technologies. He also stated that the system should be built for environmental and economic reasons. What kind of speeds was he talking about? Try 10,000 MPH! (Read this June 11, 1972 LA Times article).

On August 2nd, 1972, Salter wrote Rand document P-4874. The publication was titled, "The Very High Speed Transit [VHST] System." The 17-page report detailed the technologies involved, possible attained speeds, aspects of economic and security benefits, and potential routes. This document reported achievable passenger speeds at 14,000 MPH!

By 1978, this proposal grew in dimension and attracted serious consideration by Continuity of Government officials, intelligence departments and U.S. military command. That February, Robert Salter submitted report number P-6092, titled, "Trans-Planetary Subway Systems: A Burgeoning Capability." This report updated route maps and extrapolated further upon the economic and technical considerations in planning the system.

Even though the National Geographic, History and Sci-Fi channels have programs exposing the underground cities of ancient civilizations (and storage companies), only our imaginations can provide insight into how extensive a national security network of tunnels might be if the Black Operations World (BOW) were given the green light to begin construction.

By using conventional 'rock drilling' Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs), it would take decades to complete. Whereas using the more advanced TBMs, developed by Los Alamos Labs, the construction costs would have been sharply reduced, the time required to build tunnels lessened, and the inherent dangers of loose rock tunneling avoided. (see the actual Los Alamos patents 1, 2, 3).

HAS THE VHST SYSTEM BEEN BUILT?

According to numerous eyewitnesses and former government employees, the system already exists and is currently being used by the Shadow government, their black ops forces, plus favored corporate entities.

WHY ARE WE TRYING TO GENERATE INTEREST IN THESE DOCUMENTS?

There are many reasons, including: If surface humanity were to encounter a serious extraterrestrial threat, natural or alien, it would be better to have relocated transportation systems underground to maintain operations and continuity of the government; the threat of terrorist attacks on the national transportation infrastructure would be minimized; surface CO2 emissions would be greatly reduced.

Can we afford not to make this move?

For further information regarding Robert M Salter Rand documents, click here.

Note: The Reptoids Research Center will not intentionally expose the exact location of secret underground installations. There are rational reasons for secrecy sometimes and we do not want to encourage trespassing or wilderness hikes by unskilled explorers who are looking to verify their suspicions.

Actual patent docs:

HERE: http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/Underground/tbm1page.htm

2ND PATETN DOC:

HERE: http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/Underground/tbm2page.htm

3RD PATENT DOC:

HERE: http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/Underground/tbm3page.htm

372 posted on 03/24/2008 8:20:48 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DCPatriot

Some . . . ‘spooky’ stuff:

http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/th-sec-12.html

http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/th-intro.html

FWIW


374 posted on 03/24/2008 9:53:11 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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