Gleanings from the Vol 22 #12 issue 41 of UFO MAGAZINE DEC 2007
A CONVERSATION with William J Birnes pp 32-43
NICK POPE 21 years at MOD UFO archive dept—ended up in charge of it . . .
EXCERPTS:
Clear typos were corrected by Quix Others may have been inserted by Quix. LOL. Quick copying without much time spent on proofing.
‘You listen to a pilot tell his story of firing sixty-five 30-calilber machine-gun rounds into a flying object he has never seen before, clearly under intelligent control, that simply absorbs the rounds with no apparent damage. You listen to another pilot describe how a beam of unknown origin locks up the weapons control panel on his F-4 Phantom and then releases it when the pilot breaks off the attack.’
‘Pope explained that the Ministry’s UFO project has been ongoing since 1950 and covers over ten thousand sightings. Although, he concedes, most people believe that it would have been simple just to have released the entire file into the public record, that was not possible because the MoD must first delete personal details of witnesses and redact classified information such as technical data on weapons and surveillance systems. One can’t, he says, really release all information without first scrubbing the classified data.’
Rodrigo Bravo Garrido: “In 2000 the crew of a Chilean plane from the Aviation branch of the Army, flying south of Santiago, observed a long cigar-shaped object, a brilliant gray. It flew parallel to the right side of the aircraft for two minutes and then disappeared at a very high speed.”
Anthony Choy: “The evidence we have from actual UFO cases and incidents that have taken place in our country show that the UFO phenomenon remains one of the greatest challenges to our current knowledge of science and technology.”
THE NATO SHAPE DOCUMENTS AND ROBERT DEAN:
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“In 1964 then-U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major Robert O. Dean saw a document at NATO’s Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe called ‘The Assessment,’ which eh said described NATO’S study of the implications of an extraterrestrial presence on earth. . . .”
“Pope argues that RAF Bentwaters is no less than England’s Roswell and probably more probative about the existence of UFOs than the American Roswell because the case is more recent, is better documented, and has more living witnesses. “
“Even though the Walter Haut 2002 affidavit just released to the public in 2007 seems to have firmly cast aside any doubts about the reality of the UFO incident at Roswell, the Bentwaters case is supported not only by on-the-scene documentation by former U.S. Air Force sergeant Jim Penniston, who has spoken openly of having touched the strange object, but also a running on-the-scene audio commentary recorded on a pocket tape recorder by former deputy base commander Colonel Charles Halt. Halt has also publicly displayed at a number of conferences a plaster cast of the indentation the craft made in dense sand at Rendlesham Forest on the night it landed. “
“Jim Penniston was a witness to that landing and had diagramed the indentation pattern as well as the hieroglyphic-type lettering on the side of the object. Halt has maintained that the plaster cast of the strut is very interesting, not just because the landing strut seems to be very conventional; it also indicates that the obect was very heavy and made a deep indentation in the hard ground.”
CLAUDE POHER: “The occupants were seen floating in the air while entering the craft, from its top, in a hurry.”
The Cosford Incident
“The Cosford incident took place in March 1993, exactly the same night when in Belgium the Air Force scrambled F-16s to intercept huge black flying triangles. For its own part, the MoD received sixty reports of at least on and possibly more UFOs that flew over to Cosford that night, and RAF Shawbury reported a description called in by an observer of a large flying triangle. Other military observers later said they saw a slow-moving object when then accelerated very rapidly, more rapidly than any existing Air Force jet.”
“Here’s an incident, Pope says, that indicates this was not an ordinary conventional aircraft. When an Air Force witness describes something like this, one realizes this is not a system we have in our arsenal. Moreover, Pope says, if the RAF had such aircraft, floating over an Air Force base and other civilian populations isn’t the way they would test them. He knows the RAF has no weapons like this because had there been such weapons systems in the RAF, he believes he would have been told to back off the investigation so as not to compromise security issues. Because he received no such instructions, he believes this was not a black project.”
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Jean-Charles Duboc: “The apparent diameter of this object could be ompaed to the diameter of the moon or the sun. That means that it was about 1,000 feet wide.”
More to follow if and when I get around to it.
Blessings,
Quix
UFO PING LIST PING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE DISCUSSION . . .
THOUGH THIS VIDEO OF THE NOV 2007 NATIONAL PRESS CLUB CONFERENCE ON THE UFO TOPIC IS WELL WORTH VIEWING:
http://realufos.blogspot.com/2007/12/complete-video-of-national-press-club.html
Las Vegas Dave FREEPMAILED me with a suggestion to ping the list more often.
Yet, recently one or two asked off the list due to frequent pings.
I would appreciate more dialogue and at least an occasional clue-in as to whether things like the ATS gleanings are of interest.
When I post and there are no responses, it allows the NAYSYERS an easier time claiming it’s all just
MORE OF THAT CRAZY QUIX NONSENSE that’s of no interest to anyone.
I think we do ourselves a service as well as folks on the fence and even some others . . . to keep the topic in the public arena. All the more so as the PTB (Powers That Be) seem to be ramping sightings etc. up at an increasing pace.
I’m wondering if we could have some way to help insure at least a respectable level of dialogue about the better postings. Not per se every post—but the more substantive, better ones.
Perhaps we could have volunteers—say 5-15 voluntters for each month of the year . . . and those volunteers would be willing to check in on such threads at least once a week during their month and at least post a few times about the substantive threads and posts.
But I’m quite open to any other ideas . . . I am just convinced that the topic is worth it . . . and it’s worth keeping folks at large aware of such goings on regardless of whether they still think it’s nonsense, or not.
At some point, they’ll be more than glad someone cared that much.
What say you?