Military now says planes flying in area of UFO reports (Stephenville "UFO")

Houston Chronicle ^

[Quix]

Thanks. Does it show on the web, too?

Got rid of the TV a year ago.

Could you please summarize the high points?

[glock rocks]

He went over the AFB in England sighting that they just released some documents on... did some stuff on Soviet history and the military’s orders to keep an eye to the sky... covered our stealth projects and CIA involvement in perpetuating the UFO stories...

He went over cattle mutilations in the southwest... he did a segment on an abduction... he did a segment on a non-magnetic device a guy in Seattle created that floats in a strong electromagnetic field (ion wind?).

The narrator/writer is Irish, I believe, and it might be on the web. I’ll do some looking around.

[Quix]

Much appreciated.

What was the most interesting in all of that, to you?

[dragnet2]

At least that's what the military said today, reporting that 10 F-16 fighter jets were training in the Stephenville area the night dozens of residents reported seeing a UFO.

Can these people in this area of Texas be this stupid as to mistake F-16s for UFOs?

I would hope not.

[Quix]

No way.

IIRC, they are used to such flights by the military jets and know the sounds and sights well.

[Quix]

AN article about a purported piece of a UFO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1351634.ece

photo at the link

[glock rocks]

Cattle mutilations... one of the cattle ranchers near Los Alamos said the saucer shaped ship he saw hovering over his ranch actually had a rotor. He was convinced the government was taking his cattle to perform testing incidental to their military activities (i.e. for radiation damage, etc.) and making it look like aliens. Interesting.

[Quix]

Some have claime the gubmint has been doing 50% of the mutilations and aliens the other half.

Interesting.

Thanks.

[Quix]

MORE ATS GLEANINGS . . .

Thread on a purported stargate being built in Utah by a heavy duty billionaire with serious gov connections:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread366552/pg1

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Video about puppet masters etc.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread367528/pg1

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[Quix]

UFO PING LIST PING

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list.

to tonight’s gleanings from ATS:

ATS THREAD ABOUT EDGAR MITCHELL—6TH MAN ON THE MOON radio show asserting we are not alone in the universe:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread374172/pg1

ORIGINAL SOURCE available on the thread. But I went to it and couldn’t quickly find the Mitchell show. Not sure if it’s archived, or not.

The ATS thread may have some info from the show.

Here’s a post from the ATS thread:

posted on 22/7/2008 @ 15:37 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

Edgar Mitchell Saying that there is life, that we have been visited and its being covered up by the goverment for 60 Years!

And saying that theres more of it in the newspapers,
Saying he’s been breifed that we’ve been visited and he’s been involved in research programs!
Quite spectacular to hear from him.

Edgar saying its been covered up - But is starting to open up alot more.

posted on 22/7/2008 @ 15:43 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

The interview is on now.

Here are some notes I took...

Edgar Mitchell says there IS life in the Universe.

He says we have been visited, and that UFOs have been covered up by the government for a long time.

The host almost has a stroke during the interview he’s so shocked.

Edgar says it is a real phenomena.

He says he’s been inside military circles and they know we’ve been visited and talk about it behind closed doors.

He says he’s been involved in certain research committees and knows people who know the real story.

There is quite a bit of contact going on.

The Roswell crash was real.

Doesn’t know if Disclosure will be this year or not...

Public acceptance is increasing.

Not all UFOs are of ET origin. Some are home-grown. But some are ET crafts.

He’s not concerned about his safety talking about it openly anymore.

Alien intent is not hostile.

Some others involved in the Moon landing also know the truth.

The host made the point that this is the first time Edgar has stated so clearly that ET life exists and UFOs are real. He’s hinted at it, but this is the first time ever...

To me this is ground breaking. I really respect Edgar.

PS - Nick Pope is on next!!!

[edit on 22-7-2008 by ufo reality]

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Was evidently on 15:00 Georgia time today.

Here’s a YOUTUBE link from the thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTLzrIU_BU&NR=1

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Very short ATS thread about dreams of war:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread374264/pg1

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Not sure if this one posted before, or not.

A Larry King YOUTUBE video . . . about

CNN: Video of UFO craft destroying missile nuke flying through the sky!

I saw this on CNN’s Larry King 3 nights ago. I am very pleased to see that somebody posted it on Youtube. I saw this On the CNN website yesterday, but I heard people comment being appalled that www.cnn.com would have UFO stories of this nature on their front page.

So here it is guys. Give this sucker plenty of hits. I have never seen a video where a UFO is actively destroying an atomic weapon. And guess what, according to these experts, they haven’t only been destroying US artillery, they’ve been doing it with other countries. Are they trying to save us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djYSiwIZ69I&feature=related

posted on 22/7/2008 @ 13:51 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

This video combined with the testimony of these former Air Force officers is one of the BEST in Ufology in my humble opinion.

Springer...

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Never argue with an idiot, he’ll only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

2nd of 4 videos on YOUTUBE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJvHn4-GZKM&feature=related

ATS THREAD ABOUT IT:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread374145/pg1

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ATS THREAD:

545 people are responsible...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread373737/pg1

By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does..

You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does..

You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does..

You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does..

You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does..

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country..

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress..

In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank..

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing..

I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes..

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party..

CONTINUED ON THE THREAD AND AT ORIGINAL SOURCE:

http://www.fernleynews.com/1400000/545_People.html

ACTUALLY, I think the puppet masters co-opted the Congress critters and the Supreme court and certainly the Executive branch long ago. Nevertheless, the Congress critters COULD stand up and be counted as long as they lived, to do so.

The Executive, could PROBABLY screen some military folks and kick rear until the traitors were routed . . . but all are sucking up to the traitors . . . whether due to threats, or agreeing or fear or whatever.

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Anti-Gravity, the Future is Here

An article published by the BBC way back in 2002, titled ‘Boeing tries to defy gravity‘, described anti-gravity research projects being conducted by Boeing. The research projects are being done by the Phantom Works division of Boeing, which primarily works on top-secret, black projects for the US military

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread374246/pg1

ORIGINAL SOURCE:

http://www.vorchester.com/vnews/?p=20

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Order from company: update your emergency contacts

This week at work there has been somewhat of a rush to make sure our emergency contacts have been updated in company systems. In addition there was a review on the number to call for our company if we are in a disaster area to report we are OK.

Now, our company has gone through several mergers and lots of systems are swapping data, moving to new servers stuff like that, so it could just be a general update. In addition hurricane season is coming up so that could be a part of it.

But with the recent post (I couldn’t find it) of someone being told to back up government info for strange reasons, and other posters getting similar requests I thought this was a tiny bit weird. Because although I am not in Atlanta (like the mentioned post) our company has several regional and divisional offices in Atlanta.

Just something I thought I would throw out there.

[edit on 22-7-2008 by Sr Wing Commander

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread374241/pg1

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posted on 7/4/2004 @ 12:24 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

US Planetary Defense plan and Wormwood

Am posting link to Austrailian site where I found photos of “Wormwood” posted on line down under. Also posted there is a Pentagon Paper outlining the need and plans for Global Planetary Defense.

It’s the pix titled Wormwood that rattled me, because all along I’ve been thinking that this incoming planet, comet, asteroid thing is too far out to be considered real.

Now, I’m not so sure. See for yourself.

ips.gov.au...

www.au.af.mil...

It’s about time this information was revealed to the general public for open discussions.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread42373/pg1

ORIG SOURCES: links broken . . . interestingly.

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posted on 20/7/2008 @ 20:34 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

DIGG ATS

for original
content
more infoGiant battleship in the sky?

Please watch this video, it is probably one of the best ever seen.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread373558/pg1

VIDEO LINK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmwwUr1e2M

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dats all for now, folks.

BE WELL, PROVISIONED, PREPARED AND PROSPER . . . WALKING CLOSE TO GOD.

[DCPatriot]

Good evening, Quix!

Was just reading the thread over at ATS.

Springer indicated that Mitchell has been a conspiracy theorist for many years.

[Quix]

Interesting.

Springer is a very solid bloke. Has been wonderful in all my contacts with him. Very level headed, sharp, no nonsense yet compassionate.

Mitchell seems to be quite sharp and no nonsense either.

He must have gotten a signal somehwer to up the ante.

Fascinating.

Thanks for your kind reply.

[The Cajun]

Some others involved in the Moon landing also know the truth. The host made the point that this is the first time Edgar has stated so clearly that ET life exists and UFOs are real. He’s hinted at it, but this is the first time ever... To me this is ground breaking. I really respect Edgar.

I think this is very, very significant for Edgar Mitchell to be this blunt about the subject and not just hinting around anymore. All we need is for one more moon walker to say "Edgar is not lying", nothing more, and it would really hit the fan on the subject of UFOs. (I know several other astronauts have hinted at things, but we need another moon walker to be as blunt as Mitchell and really get the ball rolling.)

I have to be honest with you, I doubt a lot of the conclusions and conspiracy theories you believe in and I doubt a lot of the sightings that witnesses have reported (that is just my skeptical nature). However after seeing something myself 6 years ago, I'm now interested in the subject. The only "expert" I will give some credence to is Stanton Friedman. I have a feeling he is for real and not just a con artist looking to earn some coin. The only witnesses that really make me stand up and take notice are people like Edgar Mitchell, airliner pilots and military pilots.

Airliner pilots have dream jobs that pay 100K to 200K a year and some risk it all to come forward with some very vivid sightings. Military pilots risk careers. I'm not too sure if I were in their positions that I would come forward.

Hope we'll someday find out what the heck is really going on. :-)

[Quix]

I think this is very, very significant for Edgar Mitchell to be this blunt about the subject and not just hinting around anymore. All we need is for one more moon walker to say "Edgar is not lying", nothing more, and it would really hit the fan on the subject of UFOs. (I know several other astronauts have hinted at things, but we need another moon walker to be as blunt as Mitchell and really get the ball rolling.)

I have to be honest with you, I doubt a lot of the conclusions and conspiracy theories you believe in and I doubt a lot of the sightings that witnesses have reported (that is just my skeptical nature). However after seeing something myself 6 years ago, I'm now interested in the subject. The only "expert" I will give some credence to is Stanton Friedman. I have a feeling he is for real and not just a con artist looking to earn some coin. The only witnesses that really make me stand up and take notice are people like Edgar Mitchell, airliner pilots and military pilots.

Airliner pilots have dream jobs that pay 100K to 200K a year and some risk it all to come forward with some very vivid sightings. Military pilots risk careers. I'm not too sure if I were in their positions that I would come forward.

Hope we'll someday find out what the heck is really going on. :-)

THANKS TONS FOR YOUR KIND NOTE AND AFFIRMATION OF THE SEA CHANGE.

1. Much agree. It is VERY SIGNIFICANT. And, I don't for a minute believe it occurred without some high-level permissions or instructions, even orders going out from the councils of the puppet masters. Whether they told Mitchel directly or told CNN directly, I can't guess. But I'm certain that Larry King did not take his new tack in favor of the observers and giving the naysayers short shrift WITHOUT authorization/orders from 'on high' from the powers that be. As Peter Jennings said to a researcher once "You know who won't let us. You know who they are."

2. It is CERTAINLY TRUE that several astronauts have hinted. And at least one has stated something of the truth then recanted then restated etc.

3. I would be skeptical TOO,

IF:

A) My relative had not worked around the craft and seen them more or less daily in his job.
B) I had not studied the topic since 1962--reading thousands of pages of quality first hand reports of military pilots and o0bservers; Airline pilots; Policemen; other scientists; other observers who's integrity was demonstrably top flight.

C) I had not had a conviction in my spirit that there was real events occurring with REAL STRANGENESS and that my hunch was correct that it WOULD turn out to have a significant role to play in the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION.
D) I think folks underestimate the flack I have taken from my own Evangelical Christian Pentecostal PRIMARY REFERENCE GROUP. That's not been fun, nor always easy to take, at all.

E) Catty folks hereon make it sound like it's an easy thing to pass me off as an idiot, low IQ, clueless kook. That's just irrational nonsense. 1. Some folks could certainly be found who'd agree that I was an idiot because of this or that belief or action. More folks could be found who know me best who'd attest that my perceptiveness is markedly above average. 2. I don't think genius is what it's cracked up to be--we make dumb errors all the time. But I don't happen to have a low IQ at all. A number of folks who know me best are certain it's above 200 though I haven't tested above 200. 3. Clueless seems to often be in the eye of the beholder. If someone disagrees with me, then I'm clueless. 4. Kook? I'm certainly a bird of rare plumage. And, again, the eye of the beholder . . . if my strangeness is disagreeable to the observer, then I'm a kook. Sometimes friendly folks call me a kook.

4. I've privately (more or less privately--private conversations at conferences that others could evesdrop on) interviewed Stanton Friedman many minutes worth. He's the real deal. He's sharp, witty and a mostly friendly curmudgeon who doesn't suffer fools much at all and certainly not gladly.

4.1 He has the experience as well as the mind and solid research habits to back up what he says.

4.2 When I first began interviewing him 3 years ago, he would somewhat fiercely decline to affirm anything very significant that he could not verify with hard tangible documentation. He'd very rarely give even an opinion about anything he couldn't profoundly back up.

4.3 That has changed somewhat. Now, he'll give an opinion based on a ton of evidence even if the evidence is testimonial but quality testimonial--and usually multiple quality testimonies.

4.4 I have been quite disappointed to detect possibly a year ago and certainly this last March that he is DECIDEDLY ON THE SIDE OF THOSE who see the ET's as helping us realize we are all one planet; one world . . . yada yada yada. If you aren't reading GLOBALISM AND GLOBAL GOVERNMENT into such a perspective, you haven't been researching that issue at all or are simply willfully clueless about THAT.

4.5 You may continue to disbelieve me . . . However, when THOSE events start tumbling out of CNN into living room laps around the planet . . . that perspective will suddenly change, too. Only that sea change will have horrendously awful implications and repurcussions. We may well quickly, then, no longer be able to discuss them openly.

5. Are you aware that there was a still employed airline pilot who was piloting his private small plane ABOVE (not per se directly above but sort of along side) the massive mile+ craft that overflew AZ from Utah to Tucson in the so called "Phoenix lights" incident 11 years ago? THIS AIRLINE PILOT SAID HE COULD HAVE LANDED HIS COMMERCIAL AIRLINER ON TOP OF THE UFO--IT WAS THAT MASSIVE.

6. Stay tuned . . . It is BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE the whole thing will be outted more or less conclusively--that is--that the whole world will publically know and acknowledge the existence of ET's and their craft within 18 months. Certainly I expect other high ranking quality observers, experiencers, folks working in the know--to come forward in that time.

7. We have felt so before and been proven wrong. I would prefer it to still be wrong. The disclosure will NOT turn out to be wonderful for the world . . . except that it must needs also be before Christ returns. So I guess in that sense, it will be progress, of a sort.

8. REGARDLESS, for better, bitter, badder or worse . . . the die is cast. The whole mess will surface with increasing speed in coming months. The trend is clear.

9. Thanks for your substantive comments. May God be with you and all you love. Keep your seat belts buckled. This is an E-ticket ride. Keep your limbs and cameras inside the car.

10. Do NOT invite an abduction. Do NOT take rides from stranger ET's. Do NOT receive a chip imiplant. EMPHATICALLY Rebuke all such in the Name of Jesus--King of Kings and Lord of Lords--EVEN TO THE POINT OF DEATH FROM THIS LIFE, if needs be.

[Quix]

Interesting . . . Dave . . .

It appears that the numbing down, dumbing down of the populace by various means . . . . has left folks unaware

really unaware

of the import of the recent Larry King UFO shows.

Very interesting.

Who said herding SHEEPLE is like herding cats . . .

Reminds me of THE TIME MACHINE . . . and the surface folks going willingly into the earth to be eaten.

Sheep BLED for the slaughter . . . we pay the D.C. idiots . . . as our treasonous traitors.

[Quix]

BTTT

[Quix]

Interesting doc re Iran and WWIII:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=3519

Operation Brimstone: Preparing for WWIII

Willard Payne
News Blaze
July 22, 2008

In order to enforce the seriousness of the U.S.-EU position against Iran with the threat of serious sanctions Debka reports a dozen warships from the U.S.-UK-France and a Brazilian frigate began ten days of maneuvers Monday in the Atlantic off the U.S. coast to practice the blockading of Iran’s coast in the Strait of Hormuz.

The exercises have been called “Operation Brimstone” and are lead by the USS Theodore Rooselvelt Carrier Strike group and the USS Iwo Jima Expedtionary Strike Group which carries ground forces trained in operating in shallow coastal-littoral waters and the seizure of islands like the ones in the Strait of Hormuz, Qeshm for example. The narrow island is about fifty miles long and just a few miles off Bandar Abbas believed to be the headquarters of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and the small islands in the strait are manned by Revolutionary Guard Marines. [DEBKA]

Knesset -The IRGC will no doubt have Iranian air and naval support as the combined U.S.-EU forces attempt to enforce a blockade intended to target shipments of benzene and other refined oil products as they head for Iranian ports. Iran does not have much oil refining capacity and therefore has to import 40% of its benzene.

France24 recorded British Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s speech in front of Israel’s Knesset in Jerusalem in which he reinforced the two week sanctions ultimatum by EU foreign policy representative Javier Solana and U.S. Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice, “Iran now has a clear choice to make: suspend its nuclear programme and accept our offer of negotiations or face growing isolation and the collective response not of just one nation but of all nations round the world. Just as we heave led the work of three mandatory sanctions resolutions of the UN, the UK will continue to lead-with the United States and our European Union partners-in our determination to prevent an Iranian nuclear weapons programme.” [FRANCE24]

Tehran - But Iran made its “confrontation”-war decision quite some time ago as PressTV reports Iran conducted its recent maneuvers, including the firing of long range missiles, in response to these threats. Frankly Iran’s maneuvers were made in anticipation of (f)allout war as Tehran knew the West would have to militarily confront the implication of the range of Iran’s missiles which can reach Europe. This is the culmination of Tehran’s foreign policy, Islamic agenda, and the final preparations for a war designed to defeat the West and give massive support to Pakistan and if successful Tehran will be at the center of a new re-alignment of international power with Iran at the center, replacing a defeated West. [PRESSTV]

And Tehran is aware one dose not achieve that by trying to conquer the desert and sand of Israel. The “wipeout” statements by Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a planned distraction as Tehran completed preparations to attack its main target. So I suspect Iran’s leadership is saying the West is finally acknowledging what we have known for years was inevitable and enemy forces will be operating in a confined area right off our coast, a naval-maritime trap like Iraq-Afghanistan.

Participating in the Operation Brimstone maneuvers is the British HMS Illustrious Carrier Strike Group and the French submarine Amethyste. There are also French Rafale fighter jets on board the Theodore Roosevelt alongside U.S. aircraft. In addition to preventing benzene from arriving Operation Brimstone is also intended to prevent Iran’s attacks on oil shipping leaving the Persian Gulf for world ports.

After a briefing by Under Secretary of State William Burns, who took part in the Geneva negotiations, Secretary of State Rice met in Abu Dhabi the representatives of the six Gulf Cooperation Council states and officials from Egypt-Jordan-Iraq.

Pentagon - GoNavy.jp not only mentions these maneuvers but seems to indicate the carrier USS Abraham Lincoln is still on station in the North Arabian Sea and if so could be used in support of the blockade. These maneuvers are due to end July 31 just two days before the end of the ultimatum delivered by the U.S.-EU. [GONAVY]

Diplomacy and negotiations has obviously run their course so all that is left now is Tehran’s attack on the blockade which I assume will be attempted in August after perhaps one more round of ultimatums. Iran has been warning, for at least the past few years, their response to sanctions will eventually be war.

Other than the allies currently taking part in Operation Brimstone the two most likely to respond once the shooting starts will be Germany-Japan especially the later since of all the industrialized nations Japan is the most dependent on oil from the Persian Gulf. In late 2004 Tokyo made its military policy offensive right after Iran’s oil minister stated publicly Tehran wanted China to be the main importer of Iran’s oil and gas instead of Japan. Since then Tokyo has maintained extremely serious diplomatic contact with Tehran on a daily basis and maintains close relations with Persian Gulf states as Japan insisted on a peaceful resolution to Iran’s nuclear weapons program. In the fall of 2006 Japan pulled out of a Persian Gulf development project in an Iranian field when they realized there would be no peaceful resolution.

Other than attacks on the blockade Tehran could have fighting increase in other regional theatres: West Asia around Israel, to reduce the chance of any joint operation between the U.S.-Israel on Iran’s known nuclear installations, Central Asia-Afghanistan to force NATO to be more on the defensive and in Southeast Europe using Albanian groups to attack Serbs in Kosovo. Tehran knows Belgrade has re-armed and supports Serbia by having signed a security agreement in 2006. The Balkans is Iran’s avenue of invasion into Europe which I assume will begin after ballistic missile launchings.

Night Watch Information Service

http://www.crossfirewar.com

[Quix]

BTTT

Folks, the Larry King videos really do represent a sea change in terms of public discussion of this topic.

[Quix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhN-cE_jRmI

YOUTUBE video . . .

EDWARDS AFB HAD UFO OFFICER

[misanthrope]

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